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Since Intel is likely to keep limiting consumer parts to six cores, it's probably not even worth the wait for Ivy-E. Shop around for a proven 3820, or 3930k overclocker and enjoy.
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no more TIM on the die!!/quote]

TIM = Thermal Interface Material. It doesn't specifically refer to or imply any particular form.

Solder just happens to be the TIM between the die and IHS on the last several generations of Intel parts, prior to Ivy.
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September. I know of 2 main boards being refreshed, it's still on X79 as far as I know
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I'm also in the same boat man, 4820K would be the way to go and should be better than the current 4770K, temp-wise, OC-wise and price wise. But what sucks is the waiting period.

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Ivy e isn't going to be anything great either. 5% on the CPU side

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I'm also in the same boat man, 4820K would be the way to go and should be better than the current 4770K, temp-wise, OC-wise and price wise. But what sucks is the waiting period.


4820K is going to be slower then a 4770K.

4820K - Ivy Bridge
4770K - Haswell
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Ivy e isn't going to be anything great either. 5% on the CPU side

umm.

A 10% better IPC across 6c/12t. maybe 8c/16t
Native PCI-E 3.0
Better memory controller. If it stays the same as ivy, 2666mhz+ possible with quad channal = epic ram disk.
If same as ivy it should scale under cold.
Lower power use.
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Also, I'm pretty damn sure Intel will use solder with the LGA 2011 line....it would be extremely foolish to use cheapo TIM on the "Enthusiast High End" line of CPUs. I'm not saying Intel won't ....but it would similar to shooting yourself in the foot biggrin.gif ....SO with that said, Ivy-E with decent temps, and great OCing ability...that will bring back a few happy faces from the severe disappointment in Hasfail....I know Ivy Bridge 3770k and 3570k both OCed great once the heat was under control (Delid).

Doubt Intel will go back to solder for the 2011 chips. The conductivity of the solder was not compatible with the tri gate resistor technology.
    
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umm.

A 10% better IPC across 6c/12t. maybe 8c/16t
Native PCI-E 3.0
Better memory controller. If it stays the same as ivy 2666mhz possible with quad channal = epic ram disk.
If same as ivy it should scale under cold.
Lower power use.

Where are you pulling 10% from? It'll be the same as sandy to ivy. 7% tops and there won't be any 8 cores. Maybe with Haswell e. do a search. Coolaler already reviewed the ivy e chips and they're a bust
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Ivy e isn't going to be anything great either. 5% on the CPU side
4820K is going to be slower then a 4770K.

4820K - Ivy Bridge
4770K - Haswell

What proof do you have that a 4820K IS going to be slower than a 4770K? And where are you getting this 5% figure from? You need to reword your posts if your claims are just assumptions based on your own personal conjectures.
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What proof do you have that a 4820K IS going to be slower than a 4770K? And where are you getting this 5% figure from? You need to reword your posts if your claims are just assumptions based on your own personal conjectures.

doh.gif

Look at the 3820 vs the 3770K. The 3770K is faster then the 3820 in everything. The 4820 is based on ivy bridge. The 4770K is haswell. Haswell is faster then Ivy bridge. See where im going?
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There are rumours Ivy-e will be skipped and haswell-e will come in 2013/2014.
In 2014 we will get haswell refresh and in 2015 we will likely get consumer ddr4 compatible sockets with skylake and/or extreme socket (skylake-e or whatever it will be).
haswell-e was supposed to be ddr4 compatible and thus coming in 2014. It is also very possible they prefer to postpone ddr4 for both consumer & enthusiast to 2014/2015.
The old road map was Ivy-e this year, broadwell in 2014 but this isn't the case anymore. If you try to fit ivy-e in the new roadmap you will end having it less than a year which is unlikely to happen.
I am whiling to bet skylake will be soldered on the motherboard.

Anyway, I am not sure intel knows exactly what they want to do. They seem to have abandoned their roadmap and now focus into ultrabook and mobile market. They will still offer desktop CPU but don't expect to have what we used to have. If you want the best of the world (overclock, IHS soldered, etc.) you will have to pay more for the -E version.

Haswell isn't an upgrade if you have sandy. You will get better bench score but that's pretty much all you will get.
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