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Over the last 12 years I have dumped pretty much every video I have ever taken to digital. I used whatever codec was avail at each time and that leaves me with several issues.

Different cameras have had different dimensions and different times or computers have encoded the video in different codecs.

The quality size container and codec varies widely over the years.

I need to re-encode them all to a 264 codec but I need to find something that can automatically pick the bit rate and screen dimensions.

If I throw a bunch of videos into media expresso it trys to handle them all as the same resolution and try to apply the same bitrate.

I need it to use the best bitrate possible without making the video worse or making the file large for no reason..

How can I do this without doing it individually for every file.

I just want to do this then back them all up and store them.
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I use Handbrake for all my encoding. It can do batch encoding, but I'm not sure if there is a good setting to let it automatically choose the best settings for different dimensions/bitrates of video. You could maybe try do different batches based on dimensions?
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What you are saying with the dimensions is so far all I can think of... I wish there was a way to preserve the quality or lack there of without worrying about loosing quality or inflating files frown.gif
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mpegstreamclip > list batch > chose settings > wait > profit

why autobitrate? just chose something between 8-12 mbps if captured from tape.
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mpegstreamclip > list batch > chose settings > wait > profit

why autobitrate? just chose something between 8-12 mbps if captured from tape.

I guess I should explain a little better. Over the last 12 years it has been several different camera's, several different codecs, different resolutions (because of the camera's) etc etc.

I have a hodgepodge of Codecs, Bitrates, Resolutions, and just overall quality.

The dumps have been digital to digital for 10 years ever since my first MiniDV and MicroDV camera's then eventually hard drive based. Also some are from an HTC phone, some from a iphone, some from a Olympus pen, a Nikon, and an in car cam w/ datalogging.


I have historically just used whatever was the current codec at the time that gave the best quality/compression ratio.

There are thousands of videos all where cut to scene not by entire tape or event so there is a video for every time the camera started and stopped.

I guess I was hoping for some miracle technology that could look at the video decide what bitrate was necessary to preserve the video not upscale the resolution or change the screen ratio and just allow me to process everything at once AND maybe even be able to use the intel quicksync tech.

But that is probably asking a little too much.

Figured if it existed in a publically available for the masses type of software someone on here would know.

I kind of figured or guessed youtube, photobucket or other companies had to be using something similar to what I am asking for. That is not to say that it is available at any affordable rate!
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pretty sure with handbrake, when you batch all the files up and choose the settings you want..."presets" for auto stuff, it doent touch aspect ratio, etc, and you can change the quality to a 100% copy so you dont loose anything if you dont want to.
i have been using handbrake for a couple years now and its pretty freakin streamlined and automatic if you want it to be.
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Morgstreamclip is free. You have too high of expectations

12mbps is plenty quality for anything an everything you have. I highly doubt you have anything better than 15mbps. I have worked with a lot of video and tape. Unless you have used expensive broadcast quality tape decks or cameras you will be extremely good with 12mbps. Mpegstreamclip batch transcoding is great throw in all the different codecs at the same time. Just separate everything by resolution and aspect ratio

No program will auto detect and chose a different bitrate for best quality. Even good programs will detect the current settings and chose the same settings anyway. Nothing auto about it lol tongue.gif
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I was facing the same situation last year and what I did was re-encode everything using x264. Most of my videos were interlaced so I ran it through a quick deinterlacing filter using AviSynth and then piped that to x264 using preset slow, tuned to film, and a constant rate factor (crf) of 18.

I chose crf 18 since my originals were all standard definition tapes. The advantage of using crf over a fixed bitrate, is that crf automatically reallocates the bit-per-frame to whatever is on screen. As an example, high motion or dark scenes need higher bitrates to preserve the quality, and low action scenes need less bitrate. CRF effectively reallocated the otherwise "unused" data in low action (among other factors) to darker and high action sequences. This usually results in a visually consistent and superior file and almost always a smaller file as compared to using a fixed bitrate. Personally, the only time I use a fixed bitrate is when my output has HAS to be a certain file size. Basically, x264 is analysing your video and choosing how much data is required for each frame for that file.

x264 doesn't mess with your aspect-ratios or your resolutions unless you explicitly tell it to - so if you leave out those parameters, you should get an output that has the same AR and resolution as your original source.

To test this method to see if you like the results, copy a few (just a couple initially so you aren't waiting hours for it to finish) files to a separate folder. Download and put the ffmpeg [1] executable (from the "bin" folder in the archive) in the same folder, make a new folder called "completed", copy the following code into a windows batch files (maybe like encode.bat) and run it.
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@ECHO OFF
@setlocal enabledelayedexpansion

set ffmpeg="ffmpeg"

for %%i in (*.mpg) do call %ffmpeg% -i "%%i" -vcodec libx264 -preset slow -crf 20 -profile:v main -tune film -aq-mode 1 -codec:a libvo_aacenc -ab 128k -ac 2 -ar 44100 -f mp4 -y "completed\%%~ni.mp4"
PAUSE

exit

In the code, replace *.mpeg with whatever file extension your original files are. Obviously you have multiple formats, so you can either copy and paste the line that says "for %%i ..." multiple times below it to account for all the different files, or change *.mpeg with *.* . The downside to using *.* is that you should make sure you ONLY have video files in that folder.

Finally, once your encode is completed, check to see if your output files look good to you. If you don't see any visual degradation (and really, at crf 18 you shouldn't), you can try repeating again with a higher crf. You could possibly even go as high as crf 20 without any noticeable loss in quality. I tried a test encode with my files at crf 18 and I got a 8% reduction in file size. With crf 20, it was closer to 40% smaller.

[1] http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win32/static/ffmpeg-20130608-git-b77e58a-win32-static.7z

Disclaimer - the above code is off the top of my head so there *might* be syntax errors. I'll edit accordingly if I find anything.

EDIT: Updated link and code.
EDIT2: Updated code and replaced x264 for ffmpeg to encode audio at the same time. Probably also slightly faster this way.
Edited by shinigamibob - 6/8/13 at 11:10pm
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Morgstreamclip is free. You have too high of expectations

12mbps is plenty quality for anything an everything you have. I highly doubt you have anything better than 15mbps. I have worked with a lot of video and tape. Unless you have used expensive broadcast quality tape decks or cameras you will be extremely good with 12mbps. Mpegstreamclip batch transcoding is great throw in all the different codecs at the same time. Just separate everything by resolution and aspect ratio

No program will auto detect and chose a different bitrate for best quality. Even good programs will detect the current settings and chose the same settings anyway. Nothing auto about it lol tongue.gif

Not worried about the max bitrate or quality so much as not making the lower quality stuff a higher bitrate than what it needs to be... I was hoping that with the newer codecs that have come along over the years that I will be able to make this archive smaller, all one container and codec and without destroying the quality.

None of it was done with broadcast quality equipment and I wasn't trying to make it sound like the stuff is anything special by listing what I was using I am just trying to say it is not of one quality, aspect ratio, or codec and explain why... there was just so many different combinations or variables.

Anyways I am going to try some of the things that have been posted above on a folder of files that I put together that are a bunch of different qualities, resolutions, etc. and see what happens.
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Its all about experimenting and learning what works unless you understand how footage holds up and what the limits are. What i posted is a good starting point wink.gif
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