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First off, yes, I signed up just to make this thread. That doesn't mean I wouldn't be 100% serious so keep that in mind before throwing around those trendy troll accusations.

TL;DR is at the bottom, here's the long version:

The story begins with me buying a CM Storm Quickfire Pro with Cherry Browns, along with a set of black WASD o-rings. Being my first mech, it felt definitely weird, and the clacking was somehow annoyingly high-pitched. So first thing I did was install the o-rings, which resulted to a big improvement IMO, and I started getting used to the board. I quickly adjusted to the longer key travel and not always bottoming out, and eventually I was able to get rid of typing errors the new keyboard had caused.

At this point I was thinking how awesome it was to finally have the wonderful mechanical, how I never could go back to rubberdome. I was typing at decent speeds of about 70 wpm (never measured). Brown switches were the right choice, I thought, since the tactical bump allowed me to control my fingers so that I bottomed out very lightly if at all, making typing feel fancy. But then comes the problem; I started taking typing tests, and the feel of the switches was changing. When I typed as fast as I ever could (that's more or less over 90 wpm), the effect of the tactile bump became insignificant, I couldn't even tell if it was there. In addition, I could no longer stop the keys from bottoming out. I don't even think that's possible.

As a result, the keys felt linear and light. The problem for me is, the only significant feedback I got was from the very end of the travel when the keys hit the bottom plate. But IMO that's too late, I'd prefer a feedback well before bottoming out so I know I hit the key in the first place. The overall feeling to me was somewhat vague, might I say, but with an unpleasant sudden stop at the bottom.

Thing is, the feeling of the KB was still good when I had been using it for over a week. But when I went back to trying out my rubberdome boards, I realized how some rubberdomes could actually feel better to me. It's really satisfying when you press the key and the rubberdome gives in - you start pressing the key with quickly increasing force and break through the pressure point. This gives a clear sign that you pressed the button. From there on the button effortlessly presses down and activates. This feels completely different to Browns, and preferable to me. I SIMPLY PREFERRED THE RUBBERDOME KEYBOARDS AND THE FORCE FIGURES THEY OFFERED, simple as that.

To make matters worse, typing with the Browns gave me hand pain (which reduced after a few days but still), and overall felt like it took more effort. That alone is an issue to me.

Yesterday I tried a keyboard with Cherry Reds and that was no better. So, even though I feel like scum for abusing the local 2-week return policy, I can't live with my mech considering the price and the fact that I don't even prefer it to a rubberdome keyboard.

TL;DR: I guess the point of this long thread was to point out that contrary to the popular belief on the internets, mechanical switches aren't automatically superior to rubberdome for everybody. The Cherry switches I tried out couldn't offer me the feedback I wanted, I simply prefer the rubberdome feeling. So don't blindly believe the hype. If you have given your mech KB a fair chance and still aren't sure if you prefer it, you don't need to lie to yourself, rather try getting your money back if you can. OFC, if you like mechanicals (most people seem to prefer them) then none of this obviously concerns you, just use what you like best.

PS, I have zero experience with Topre keyboards. People say they're closer to rubberdome keyboards, but then again others say they're pretty much the same as Cherry Browns. Haven't tried Cherry Blues either, but I doubt they could offer similar feeling to rubberdome. Feel free to convince me to try a Topre keyboard or suggest alternatives to MS Sidewinder X4.



Hell, that was a long post but it's not like I have anything better to do
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Try cherry MX greens or Topres if you can afford a Topre board as they are absurdly pricey. Even then, it's possible you are the exception to the rule that mechy boards are better. While mechy switches are provably better in several ways, a lot of it still comes down to personal preference.
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Try cherry MX greens or Topres if you can afford a Topre board as they are absurdly pricey. Even then, it's possible you are the exception to the rule that mechy boards are better. While mechy switches are provably better in several ways, a lot of it still comes down to personal preference.
Yeah, I know they're technically superior, but then again the feeling they provide is different. And that's personal preference, I happen to like the rubberdome feedback more. I could always order a Topre KB and return if I don't like it, but I'm not too eager to abuse the system again.

BTW, you wouldn't happen to know if the variable-weight Topres with 33/45g switches are bad for gaming? And does it feel different enough from Cherry, and close enough to rubberdomes? If so, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.
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Guy I am with you, I don't like the long clicks and noise they produce, drives me nuts. I prefer my quiet rubber keyboard. I am tempted to get one again just to find out if I still don't like them though.
 
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Yeah, I know they're technically superior, but then again the feeling they provide is different. And that's personal preference, I happen to like the rubberdome feedback more. I could always order a Topre KB and return if I don't like it, but I'm not too eager to abuse the system again.

BTW, you wouldn't happen to know if the variable-weight Topres with 33/45g switches are bad for gaming? And does it feel different enough from Cherry, and close enough to rubberdomes? If so, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.

I've never tried one tbh, but I'm sure they'd be fine for gaming. Also, keep in mind you wouldn't be abusing the system if you liked it and decided to keep it, just keep in mind Topre boards run like $200+

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Guy I am with you, I don't like the long clicks and noise they produce, drives me nuts. I prefer my quiet rubber keyboard. I am tempted to get one again just to find out if I still don't like them though.

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/sampler-kit-1.html
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Hmm, maybe I'll try that Topre then. We have a nice deal here for variable-weight Realforces, around 150 € smile.gif
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I agree with the OP, I actually prefer rubber dome keyboards for gaming. I tried red switches and blue switches with and without O-rings and I just think they're one of the most over hyped things you can buy for your PC.

The thing that keeps me on mine is that I fell in love with the tenkeyless design because it gives my mouse hand more room in a more confortable position. I still can't find a decent tenkeyless rubber dome keyboard with at least 5 key rollover.
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I agree with the OP, I actually prefer rubber dome keyboards for gaming. I tried red switches and blue switches with and without O-rings and I just think they're one of the most over hyped things you can buy for your PC.

The thing that keeps me on mine is that I fell in love with the tenkeyless design because it gives my mouse hand more room in a more confortable position. I still can't find a decent tenkeyless rubber dome keyboard with at least 5 key rollover.

I think you are crazy to prefer rubber domes, they are just so mushy to me, but I am so with you on TKLs, also 60%s, wish there were more out there, mechy or not.
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I have a handy little trick I use with.. ehh, not-tenkeyless keyboards: I remap my keys from WASD to UHJK. That should put your thumb on alt gr (which conveniently registers as ctrl in games), and pinky rests rather comfortably on v. Not the perfect solution of course, having spacebar replace ctrl might be troublesome, and switching to typing becomes harder, but it works smile.gif

About the mushiness of rubberdomes, I've found it not to be too troublesome when you typer fast. E: Maybe you could view it more as a feature rather than a flaw?
Edited by matt damon - 6/7/13 at 11:39am
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The problem here, is that you are using a switch that is typically preferable for gaming, and not for typing. If you want a mechanical keyboard for typing, then you are better off getting the Blue switches. The Reds, Browns, and Blacks do not have necessary tactile feedback to adequately report to your fingers under intense applications - such as high words per minute. I have used several mechanical keyboards and after switching to the rubber domes, I could actually feel the strain on my fingers from the key presses. The Browns, Reds, and Blacks are going to have a giant learning curve when it comes to typing quickly with them while not bottoming out, as they require little force to press and do not offer enough feedback when typing quickly.

If you are looking for an "in-between" feel of both mechanical and rubber-domes, there is a type of switch called a "scissor-switch." You might find that it will offer you the best of both worlds.
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