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do we know anything yet about this 2011-3 yet? this is the first im hearing about it.

I read something a while ago that Haswell-E will have a 2011 socket but will be a different arrangement (i.e. current processors will not work in it). I'm going to presume it is referring to something along those line. I'll try find a source but it was a while ago I read it and have no idea where it was.
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post #32 of 43
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I run numerical simulations of wave propagation in nonlinear granular materials. I do need more power. For the Science! My software can chatch up with anything I have access to as I have to write it myself to solve these equations. Unfortunately my budget is finite so I cant solve the performance problem by just throwing more hardware at it, need more bang for buck.

I do understand that some people need additional performance. I just feel like most of the people that complain don't really and just like complaining about something
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post #33 of 43
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I read something a while ago that Haswell-E will have a 2011 socket but will be a different arrangement (i.e. current processors will not work in it). I'm going to presume it is referring to something along those line. I'll try find a source but it was a while ago I read it and have no idea where it was.

So now they're just bored and trying to find new ways to mess with us? a different alignment, seriously intel?
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2011-3.......really......

what, you expect Haswell-E to run on the same platform or something? Do you not realize that X79 / s2011 will be 3 years old (and could be argued that it was outdated upon its release) by the time Haswell-E is supposed to hit (according to that roadmap at least). In fact It'll have been the same amount of time that X58 / s1366 had before being replaced by X79 / s2011

so i ask you.......really........
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what, you expect Haswell-E to run on the same platform or something? Do you not realize that X79 / s2011 will be 3 years old (and could be argued that it was outdated upon its release) by the time Haswell-E is supposed to hit (according to that roadmap at least). In fact It'll have been the same amount of time that X58 / s1366 had before being replaced by X79 / s2011

so i ask you.......really........

I think everyone expected Haswell-E to have a new socket, you would have to be foolish to think otherwise. What I dont get is the -3, what the hell does that stand for? What are they adding (or subtracting) from the socket?
 
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Are you delusional? Tech companys are the kings of withholding technology. Most tech giants are a generation a head of what they release in the R&D department, Like you said it all comes down to money, and if a company can sandbag or even stifle of the competition, they will.

Not doubting the R&D part, of course they're one generation ahead there, more than one actually. Not that it matters much, as It's not that simple to release a product from R&D for worldwide adoption. It takes more than just designing it. I disagree with everything else you said though:

AMD isn't they only competitor to Intel. Intel's older products are a competitor too. Look at Haswell for example. How many upgraded to it? How many will prefer it to Ivy Bridge when Ivy is much more affordable? I can tell you Haswell adoption is really small, and will only get bigger once Intel vanishes older products from the market. (forcing us to buy Haswell)

What would have happened though if Intel released a CPU with twice/triple the improvement Haswell had over Ivy? That's right, a lot more people would have thrown money at Intel for R&D use and profit.

When your competitor is left back, and you release a new product that doesn't clearly surpass your previous offering, few people will do the upgrade. That's money lost for a company of this size.
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I think everyone expected Haswell-E to have a new socket, you would have to be foolish to think otherwise. What I dont get is the -3, what the hell does that stand for? What are they adding (or subtracting) from the socket?

we know little at this point, but there's little wrong with the socket, for all we know the 3 means only 3rd generation s2011 processors will work on the updated platform, ie Haswell-E CPUs, but if the socket is the same, Haswell-E very well might be compatible with current X79 rigs but would obviously be missing all the potentials X99 could bring such as DDR4, more than 2x SATA6, maybe even SATA Express, USB3.0, etc...
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What I dont get is the -3, what the hell does that stand for? What are they adding (or subtracting) from the socket?

I interpreted 2011-3 as "2011 Mark 3" (since Haswell-E would be the third 2011-type CPU), which seems to me to be a provisional designation at best.

My guess is that they're still hashing out the details for what mobo/chipset infrastructure will be used for Haswell-E.
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IVB-E looks like a waste if you ask me. By the looks of it, Haswell, will destroy Intel's so called "High end" product line of CPUs.
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