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Ive been trying to overclock my 965 BE to 4ghz for a while now. Here is what I have so far:

I have reached 3.8ghz stable with the following settings:



Really the only thing I did was up the multiplier (was at 17 I think? 3.2 ghz stock) and raise the voltage.

I can get into Windows @ 4ghz with these settings, but as soon as I run a test in Prime 95, she blue screens:



I get the same results with the NB Freq at the stock 2000mhz and auto volts and up to 3000mhz with 1.3v

I have tried lots of different settings from people that have the same processor and board, diff board, slightly diff processor etc.

Any ideas? Im pretty new to overclocking, and I have a feeling that I'm going to have to make changes in 3 areas: FSB, NB, and HT as well as voltage settings for each. I've heard that my mobo with the 965 can be tricky. The thing I'm most concerned about is were to start with the voltages on these. Auto settings dont tell me jack about what actual voltages it's pushing on the NB and HT. Also, am I correct in thinking that the NB VDD is kindof like the prevoltage for the actual NB and it needs to be as high as I set the NB?

Specs are in my sig "The Water Ninja."

Thanks!
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I would check to make sure you have the RAM timings correct first, in your sig the picture for the RAM shows 800 7-8-7-24. Start with your 3.8Ghz settings. Lower your CPU-NB and HT-Link speed to x8 so you can eliminate these as causes for instability. Now run prime for 10 minutes just make sure you're relatively stable. If you don't get any errors reboot and up the FSB by 3 or so. Run prime again for 5 minutes or how long you feel is safe to say your stable. Repeat until you get an error or blue screen. At this point I would up the CPU voltage by 0.025 and see if it helps at all. If it does do the same thing again.

Also watch your RAM speed. In you sig it says they're rated for 800Mhz (1600) so if you get a blue screen check to see if your RAM is running higher than this, if so lower the multiplier.
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Have you messed with upping the base clock just a tad? I had to do that to get mine stable at 3.8. Before doing that 3.6 was all I could get. Yes it adjusts everything else but if you only adjust a little it won't hurt anything.
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Don't wanna be a dick, but get a new mobo and cpu and all your games will do 200%+ FPS. even a low end i5 will kick that system in the arse ! Trying to overclock that cpu to 4ghz will probably reduce its lifespan or give you more trouble than spending a couple of bucks on a z68/z77 mobo and an i5 2500k/3330/3570K (and 2x4gb sticks of ddr3 1600 ram)
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Don't wanna be a d**k, but get a new mobo and cpu

Sure thing buddy. Lemmi just crap out $400 and I'll get right on that. thumb.gif
Also, I think you're missing the point of overclock.net here completely. Half the fun is pushing what you have to its limits...

Anyway, Penguin and Cavey, thank you both for your constructive responses. I will try out your suggestions and report back!
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Don't wanna be a dick, but get a new mobo and cpu and all your games will do 200%+ FPS. even a low end i5 will kick that system in the arse ! Trying to overclock that cpu to 4ghz will probably reduce its lifespan or give you more trouble than spending a couple of bucks on a z68/z77 mobo and an i5 2500k/3330/3570K (and 2x4gb sticks of ddr3 1600 ram)

You AGAIN!? All you do is troll the AMD forums and give everyone the same old tired speech about going to Intel. Give it a rest!



As for the OP, yeah the NVidia chipeset "980a" isn't the greatest for overclocking. The lack of the SB850 / 950 really hurts when it comes to overclocking the Phenom CPUs. The power phase is kind of enough to handle some more voltages as long as your CPU temps don't fly off the chart.

I would start at 1.5V and bump the northbridge and mem voltage just a tad and see where that gets you. Just keep moving down using the multiplier and see where you can obtain a stable overclock with good temps. Some phenom CPUs take a TON of voltage to get through a CPU frequency "deadspot". 3.8 - 4.0ghz could be yours.
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should cpu spread spectrum be on? i turn mine off. also, i found that i had to tinker with the nb voltage manually rather than leaving it on auto.
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I would check to make sure you have the RAM timings correct first, in your sig the picture for the RAM shows 800 7-8-7-24.

So your saying set the RAM to exactly the timings that are listed on the chip?
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I would start at 1.5V and bump the northbridge and mem voltage just a tad and see where that gets you

So start my mem at 1.6 and inch it up from there? But I have no idea where the northbridge voltae starts. It's set to auto and first notch up is 1.1v. I'm leary of 1.5v. Everytime I read an overclocking article they are always saying stay below 1.5v. Is it heat caused by increased voltage that's the killer? If that's the case, im fairly well watercooled so I guess I would have some headroom.


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should cpu spread spectrum be on?

Found this: http://www.overclock.net/t/542538/cpu-spread-spectrum
I turned it off, but no change.
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So your saying set the RAM to exactly the timings that are listed on the chip?
So start my mem at 1.6 and inch it up from there? But I have no idea where the northbridge voltae starts. It's set to auto and first notch up is 1.1v. I'm leary of 1.5v. Everytime I read an overclocking article they are always saying stay below 1.5v. Is it heat caused by increased voltage that's the killer? If that's the case, im fairly well watercooled so I guess I would have some headroom.


EDIT:
Found this: http://www.overclock.net/t/542538/cpu-spread-spectrum
I turned it off, but no change.

keep cpu spread spectrum off,,,,

I found the 965x4 a little easier to overclock with only 2 sticks of memory
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Originally Posted by pokerapar88 View Post

Don't wanna be a dick, but get a new mobo and cpu and all your games will do 200%+ FPS. even a low end i5 will kick that system in the arse ! Trying to overclock that cpu to 4ghz will probably reduce its lifespan or give you more trouble than spending a couple of bucks on a z68/z77 mobo and an i5 2500k/3330/3570K (and 2x4gb sticks of ddr3 1600 ram)

200%+ FPS what a laugh,,,i found the 965x4 to be a great gamer,,,even better than a 1090tx6,,,yes the intel 3570k will beat it but its not that historic
strix Z270E
(18 items)
 
HAF 922
(14 items)
 
902
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I7 7700K strix Z270E asus gtx970 dcII 4gb 16gb gskill ripjaws 2400mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
seagate sata 1 tb samsung 850 evo 500gb ssd lg blueray corsair H105 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
windows 10 home  asus 27inch 1080p  acer 24 inch 1080p acer 24 inch 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
logitech G110 evga supernova G2 750watt fractual design define XL R2 mx518 
Audio
sony wireless,,,headphones 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx 6300 asus m5a99X evo asus gtx 670 2gb  8gb 1600mhz gskill ripjaws 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
corsair 120gb ssd WD 1 tb 7200rpm lg blueray H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
windows 7 home premium 50 inch 3d plasma 1080p,,smart tv logitech wireless  corsair tx 750 watt 
CaseAudio
coolermaster 922 denon 7.1,home theatre 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
amd 965x4 asus,m4n72-e asus gtx 570 1.25gb 8gb 800 gskill ddr2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingMonitor
samsung 840 evo lg cheap zalman something cpu cooler??,,,works pretty good lg 22 inch 
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strix Z270E
(18 items)
 
HAF 922
(14 items)
 
902
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I7 7700K strix Z270E asus gtx970 dcII 4gb 16gb gskill ripjaws 2400mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
seagate sata 1 tb samsung 850 evo 500gb ssd lg blueray corsair H105 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
windows 10 home  asus 27inch 1080p  acer 24 inch 1080p acer 24 inch 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
logitech G110 evga supernova G2 750watt fractual design define XL R2 mx518 
Audio
sony wireless,,,headphones 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx 6300 asus m5a99X evo asus gtx 670 2gb  8gb 1600mhz gskill ripjaws 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
corsair 120gb ssd WD 1 tb 7200rpm lg blueray H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
windows 7 home premium 50 inch 3d plasma 1080p,,smart tv logitech wireless  corsair tx 750 watt 
CaseAudio
coolermaster 922 denon 7.1,home theatre 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
amd 965x4 asus,m4n72-e asus gtx 570 1.25gb 8gb 800 gskill ddr2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingMonitor
samsung 840 evo lg cheap zalman something cpu cooler??,,,works pretty good lg 22 inch 
PowerCase
coolermaster 850 antec 902 
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