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post #181 of 261
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Originally Posted by Regent Square View Post

Beat Titan?! Since when AMD gpus beat Nvidia? On average: 580>6970, hell 570>6970; 680>7970.

It will be slower, at a lesser price. This is an AMD road.

The 7970 was amd's response to the gtx 580.

Thanks and good day.
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either way should bring the 780 down to 600$ if its close, maybe even 550$ Good thing I have held off for this long

No, you all would still buy the GTX 780 if it costed $1000.

Nvidia has no reason to provide lower prices, they have loyal followers.
Edited by bencher - 6/8/13 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by Vesku View Post

You mean you doubt it's GCN 1.0 and instead the GCN+ cores in the 7790?
^yes.
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All wrong.

You cant compare different architectures.
AMD will use GCN for a long long time. (HSA)
Actually, you can compare different architectures.
The GTX 680 has 1536 Kepler cores, and the HD 7970 has 2048 GCN 1.0 cores. Both chips have the same number of TMU's and ROP's
With current drivers, the 680 and the 7970 run neck-and-neck in most applications (with the exception of BF3 which seems to run faster on Nvidia cards).
With this in mind, it takes about 1-1/3 GCN 1.0 cores to match 1 Kepler core.
If AMD did decide to use GCN 1.0 again, then it would take a monster OC to reach GTX 780 performance.
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post #183 of 261
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The 7970 was amd's response to the gtx 580.

Thanks and good day.

No it wasn't.

Entirely different process, came out 14 months later and only 2 months before Nvidia's 600 series.

By all accounts the 6000 were the competitors to the 500 series.
 
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No it wasn't.

Entirely different process, came out 14 months later and only 2 months before Nvidia's 600 series.

By all accounts the 6000 were the competitors to the 500 series.

i was waiting for you to show up to defend your titan.

So when PR charts were stating how much better the 7970 is than the 580 at similar price points, what was that?
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This is becoming worse then the titan review thread lol
     
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post #186 of 261
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i was waiting for you to show up to defend your titan.

So when PR charts were stating how much better the 7970 is than the 580 at similar price points, what was that?

An entirely new generation of products, soon to be followed by its competitor, the 680.

Just like the GTX 580 was not Nvidia's answer to the HD5870.... Or how the GTX 280 wasn't an answer to the HD3870. Different generation of products.
 
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post #187 of 261
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i was waiting for you to show up to defend your titan.

So when PR charts were stating how much better the 7970 is than the 580 at similar price points, what was that?
That was AMD bragging about reclaiming the title of "fastest single-GPU".
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An entirely new generation of products, soon to be followed by its competitor, the 680.

Just like the GTX 580 was not Nvidia's answer to the HD5870.... Or how the GTX 280 wasn't an answer to the HD3870. Different generation of products.

You know what you know and I know what I know. Ok?

Done.

Cause right now you are twisting the argument into something totally different from what I said.
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That was AMD bragging about reclaiming the title of "fastest single-GPU".

Hence?
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^yes.
Actually, you can compare different architectures.
The GTX 680 has 1536 Kepler cores, and the HD 7970 has 2048 GCN 1.0 cores. Both chips have the same number of TMU's and ROP's
With current drivers, the 680 and the 7970 run neck-and-neck in most applications (with the exception of BF3 which seems to run faster on Nvidia cards).
With this in mind, it takes about 1-1/3 GCN 1.0 cores to match 1 Kepler core.
If AMD did decide to use GCN 1.0 again, then it would take a monster OC to reach GTX 780 performance.

Where did you see that a 680 run neck to neck with a 7970 when a 770 run neck to neck with a 7970?
You cant compare different architectures. Its not nvidia core= AMD core. You are so wrong

Also gk104 is only a gaming chip no gpgpu at all
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You know what you know and I know what I know. Ok?

Done.

EDIT: Cause right now you are twisting the argument into something totally different from what I said.

Well if you're sure you want to conclude that:

780 is the answer to the 7970
580 is the answer to the 5870
280 is the answer to the 3870
8800GTX is the answer to the X1950XTX

then sure, let's go with that.

Card X launching a month or two before its competition doesn't mean that it's aimed at the over-a-year-old generation that's on a different process.
 
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