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Well if you're sure you want to conclude that:

780 is the answer to the 7970
580 is the answer to the 5870
280 is the answer to the 3870
8800GTX is the answer to the X1950XTX

then sure, let's go with that.

Quote for truth.
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post #192 of 261
If this card gets released soon, its aiming at the Titan or at least the 780. If said target is the 780, then assume AMD has something else up their sleeves. They wont release a GPU product like this not to attempt to dethrone the champ. I hope they do. *shakes head at Titans price tag".
post #193 of 261
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Beat Titan?! Since when AMD gpus beat Nvidia? On average: 580>6970, hell 570>6970; 680>7970.

It will be slower, at a lesser price. This is an AMD road.

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post #194 of 261
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Exactly, I don't expect anything from a dude who has nothing to back him up. Just laugh at you D:
post #195 of 261
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@Bencher, you know nothing but keep talking. Do a favor and don't post some stupid responses which are false!
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post #196 of 261
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If this card gets released soon, its aiming at the Titan or at least the 780. If said target is the 780, then assume AMD has something else up their sleeves. They wont release a GPU product like this not to attempt to dethrone the champ. I hope they do. *shakes head at Titans price tag".

They pushed out the reference 7990 so they could say they have a card that beats the Titan. Won't be surprised if Titan is the top single GPU until 20nm, after all it's a rebrand of Nvidia's large die GPGPU chip.

Surprised people can't remember what was the enthusiast discussion when the 7970 arrived, "from people that prefer Nvidia: 680 is going to make it look like an entry level card". Yet it took until just a few months ago to see any single GPU gaming card in a higher performance bracket. An AMD 28nm chip to match beat the Titan is a bit of a long shot.
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post #197 of 261
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^yes.
Actually, you can compare different architectures.
The GTX 680 has 1536 Kepler cores, and the HD 7970 has 2048 GCN 1.0 cores. Both chips have the same number of TMU's and ROP's
With current drivers, the 680 and the 7970 run neck-and-neck in most applications (with the exception of BF3 which seems to run faster on Nvidia cards).
With this in mind, it takes about 1-1/3 GCN 1.0 cores to match 1 Kepler core.
If AMD did decide to use GCN 1.0 again, then it would take a monster OC to reach GTX 780 performance.
OK, but in games 2048 GCN cores are faster than 1536 cores, clock for clock. Oh, and we forgot the raping GCN will give Kepler in compute, right?
    
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OK, but in games 2048 GCN cores are faster than 1536 cores, clock for clock. Oh, and we forgot the raping GCN will give Kepler in compute, right?

AMD is king of compute but gaming gpus don't really need it.
post #199 of 261
Talking about GPGPU performance in general is utterly pointless.

You need to know the specific application in order to know which card will give you the best perf. Making a blanket statement about AMD having better compute tells you nothing about real world performance in a market where support is everything.
 
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post #200 of 261
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Talking about GPGPU performance in general is utterly pointless.

You need to know the specific application in order to know which card will give you the best perf. Making a blanket statement about AMD having better compute tells you nothing about real world performance in a market where support is everything.

There are very few compute tasks where the 680 would be a better choice than a 7970, outside of CUDA which the 7970 can't run. It's quite clear Nvidia took a tiered approach to compute with Kepler, you have to buy into the Tesla/Titan chip to get all the compute features.
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