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You know how you tell it is 100% marketing? You place "high end pc gaming" and "next generation consoles" with the same topic.

To be honest, I would say that any latest generation processor from intel could run a consoles 720p 30 frames per second games. Just like any amd processor could. A 10 year old pc graphics card could.

Which is the bottom line.

We are not talking 4k at 120 fps. We are talking about 90% of the next generation games being only 720p with 30 frames per second. The rest will be 1080p at 30 frames per second. The amd 6790 1g, a 2 year old discontinued 140 dollar card, could run battlefield 3 at 1080p and max out most consoles in graphics detail while still doing 30 frames per second.

As for the whole "likely to struggle" bit. No, no they will not. Because anyone that wants to have a pc game, will want to play it out side of the 720p/1080p 30 frames per second box. Which will always require a gpu.

Which is really the bottom line. AMD has not delivered an apu that will do anything of what their marketing has said it would, but its marketing keeps opening its mouth.
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What has been the ongoing war between Nvidia and ATi for so long now? Drivers. Just that alone is enough reason to get AMD APU over Intel. AMD still has the fastest IGP out there.

Nope, HD5200 is faster than the fastest AMD IGPs.

Expensive. But faster.
 
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Nope, HD5200 is faster than the fastest AMD IGPs.

Expensive. But faster.

For example


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What has been the ongoing war between Nvidia and ATi for so long now? Drivers. Just that alone is enough reason to get AMD APU over Intel. AMD still has the fastest IGP out there.

By how much? 5 frames per second? The difference between 18 fps and 23 fps at 900p? Whoopie.

Kind of like lining up Ford Pinto wagons and proclaiming my ride can burst into flames 3.2 seconds faster then your ride.
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does a press release/interview with an official amd representative=news? sounds more like damage control for amds failing processor business with the recent haswell release.

They are talking about GRAPHICS.

Why do you have to mix both concepts? Remember that AMD offers processors AND graphics cards.
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By how much? 5 frames per second? The difference between 18 fps and 23 fps at 900p? Whoopie.

Kind of like lining up Ford Pinto wagons and proclaiming my ride can burst into flames 3.2 seconds faster then your ride.

People with no experience have no voice in this argument.
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Nope, HD5200 is faster than the fastest AMD IGPs.

Expensive. But faster.

So expensive it's not relevant, I dare say. You're looking at solutions that cost three times as much for comparable performance.
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They are talking about GRAPHICS.

Why do you have to mix both concepts? Remember that AMD offers processors AND graphics cards.
People with no experience have no voice in this argument.

pretty sure they're not comparing their AMD line of 7000 series GPU's against intel......
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Changed! On this rare occasion, custom titles are allowed because the original one was misleading.

Dozens of article titles have been misleading. None, none, was ever changed.

What's special about this one?
    
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Dozens of article titles have been misleading. None, none, was ever changed.

What's special about this one?

 

I guess it stops people from crying about something before reading the actual article. You know what people are like. They just read the title then rage on. thumb.gif

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People with no experience have no voice in this argument.

I am sorry, what? You completely lost me on your cryptic response? Can you prove me wrong? Can you prove that there is really any more to gain the maybe, max, a 10 fps gain? And you only get that on a very limited well customized game.

So can you explain your point?
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They are talking about GRAPHICS.

Why do you have to mix both concepts? Remember that AMD offers processors AND graphics cards.

because they are discussing apus which by definition contain both?
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