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Originally Posted by lacrossewacker View Post

pretty sure they're not comparing their AMD line of 7000 series GPU's against intel......

No, they are not, but he's rambling about processor struggles and whatnot when AMD was talking exclusively about gaming performance of their APUs on integrated graphics.
   
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For example


Laptop CPU vs Desktop APU
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Nope, HD5200 is faster than the fastest AMD IGPs.

Expensive. But faster.

Desktop CPU? They have stopped progressing since Sandy Bridge.

Intel laptop CPU are not any slower then the Desktop CPU. They have crazy high Turbos.

For example Core i7 920 is slower then a Core i7 2670QM.

Also HD 5200 is in BGA-only.

On top of that it has build in eRAM.

AMD APU are very fast GPU wise but they are severely bottlenecked by memory bandwidth.
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So expensive it's not relevant, I dare say. You're looking at solutions that cost three times as much for comparable performance.

Of course it's relevant! It was brought up in response to someone saying that AMD had the IGP crown, which they do not.

Everyone and their dog knows that Intel processors are more expensive than AMD, but they are also undeniably faster in almost all regards.
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So expensive it's not relevant, I dare say. You're looking at solutions that cost three times as much for comparable performance.

It's for the higher end market that needs smaller form factors / better power consumption. Where discrete cards are not an option you want to take unless you absolutely have to.

Macbooks for example are hardly an irrelevant market.

However that wasn't the point. Point was just that Intel has the faster "APU".
 
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Of course it's relevant! It was brought up in response to someone saying that AMD had the IGP crown, which they do not.

Everyone and their dog knows that Intel processors are more expensive than AMD, but they are also undeniably faster in almost all regards.

Why does it even matter. AMD need to make affordable APU. They cant go all crazy like Intel. There is a point when you stop with APU and buy a GPU.
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However that wasn't the point. Point was just that Intel has the faster "APU".

The APU in the PS4 would like a word with you.


If a BGA only CPU counts, then so does this one.
    
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Newsflash, Amd it'll struggle on APUs too.

if the Kaveri rumors are true (i.e. 7870 level graphic performance) then an AMD APU should be more then enough for average joe gamer
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The APU in the PS4 would like a word with you.


If a BGA only CPU counts, then so does this one.

Do you have a review of the apu on the ps4 to share with the class? No?
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if the Kaveri rumors are true (i.e. 7870 level graphic performance) then an AMD APU should be more then enough for average joe gamer

Just like bulldozer, sandy bridge, and every other piece of marketing hype?
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With that said, Haswell's integrated graphics have made bigger strides than the CPU cores this time around. The HD 4600 IGP in the Core i7-4770K isn't quite a fast as the one in AMD's A10-5800K, but it comes perilously close to wiping out AMD's one consistent advantage in this class of chip. And the Iris Pro graphics solution in the Core i7-4950HQ not only wipes out that advantage but threatens low-end discrete mobile GPUs, as well.

Haswell's true mission is to squeeze into thinner and lighter laptops and tablets, where it can provide something close to a desktop-class user experience with all-day battery life.

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