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The APU in the PS4 would like a word with you.


If a BGA only CPU counts, then so does this one.

good point. But, how well does it really perform outside of a closed environment? Albeit it does have a good looking pedigree
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What Core does AMDs APU use? GCN?
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Desktop CPU? They have stopped progressing since Sandy Bridge.

Intel laptop CPU are not any slower then the Desktop CPU. They have crazy high Turbos.

For example Core i7 920 is slower then a Core i7 2670QM.

Also HD 5200 is in BGA-only.

On top of that it has build in eRAM.

AMD APU are very fast GPU wise but they are severely bottlenecked by memory bandwidth.

How is this relevant when it comes to the statement you made about AMD having the fastest IGP?

HD5200 ships with BGA parts because selling it on LGA systems would make absolutely no sense. And yes, intel's mobile chips are really fast due to their impressive efficiency that has been their main focus for a while now.
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The APU in the PS4 would like a word with you.


If a BGA only CPU counts, then so does this one.

well first of all the consoles aren't for sale.

Secondly even though there have been rumors of AMD selling cut down parts for PCs nothing has been confirmed.

We're talking about PC hardware. And stuff that has been released.
 
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Why does it even matter. AMD need to make affordable APU. They cant go all crazy like Intel. There is a point when you stop with APU and buy a GPU.

It matters because you can't fit a very good discrete GPU into an ultrabook, for example. It also matters because the entire i7-4950hq runs on 55W at full load, while beating out full AMD desktop APUs that use twice the power, both in CPU and GPU performance. It matters because it is roughly twice as fast as the HD 4000 that was used in processors last year.
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Weren't you just crying about misleading titles a few minutes ago?
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Next consoles will use hUMA. They said that they will use the hUMA code even for pc. So eventually it will run better on an Amd apu because they will use HSA. Nothing new here.
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Next consoles will use hUMA. They said that they will use the hUMA code even for pc. So eventually it will run better on an Amd apu because they will use HSA. Nothing new here.

I think you mean NUMA.

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Next consoles will use hUMA. They said that they will use the hUMA code even for pc. So eventually it will run better on an Amd apu because they will use HSA. Nothing new here.

that's one factor among, but it probably won't be the deciding one unless amd manages to decrease the gap
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I think you mean NUMA.

What?

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-Details-hUMA-HSA-Action
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Just like bulldozer, sandy bridge, and every other piece of marketing hype?

I realize that there is marketing hype, and often these things are not lived up to, but there is no reason to suspect that the Kaveri chips won't be a very significant upgrade. I will be flabbergasted it it doesn't blow the doors off of Intel's marketing gimmick IRIS
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