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Weren't you just crying about misleading titles a few minutes ago?

"And the Iris Pro graphics solution in the Core i7-4950HQ not only wipes out that advantage but threatens low-end discrete mobile GPUs, as well."

referring to AMD's iGPU performance. If you think that's a rosey compliment....I dunno
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post #62 of 248
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"And the Iris Pro graphics solution in the Core i7-4950HQ not only wipes out that advantage but threatens low-end discrete mobile GPUs, as well."

referring to AMD's iGPU performance. If you think that's a rosey compliment....I dunno

It doesnt matter. Its expensive and only BGA. APUs is affordable,budget chips. Now intel will impress me if they can put iris on the whole line up. (And if they actually fix their crappy drivers) Until then its only a step forward.

Dont forget iris use the double size die than a gt2.
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It doesnt matter. Its expensive and only BGA. APUs is affordable,budget chips. Now intel will impress me if they can put iris on the whole line up. (And if they actually fix their crappy drivers) Until then its only a step forward.

Dont forget iris use the double size die than a gt2.

You don't really want to bring up die sizes between AMD/Intel

How do you put a value on something that's un-contended? It's faster in every aspect and uses significantly less power. You're closer to see that in a future laptop...
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well the intel hd5200 is BGA so it cant be overclocked verywell and sence the 5800k and 6800k APUs are black edition they can be overclocked by alot not only the cpu but also the gpu part can reach pretty nice overclocks so AMD is correct there IGP is better then intels cuz you cant overclock the intel gpus very well and looking at the 6800k reviews it looks like in some areas the the 6800k is actually quicker then a intel 2500k they trade blows in some tests so would have to agree with amd that the next gen games will run better on amd hardware and the intel hd5200 probably wont be used for gaming all that much cuz what kinda gamer would want a BGA form factor APU
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well the intel hd5200 is BGA so it cant be overclocked verywell and sence the 5800k and 6800k APUs are black edition they can be overclocked by alot not only the cpu but also the gpu part can reach pretty nice overclocks so AMD is correct there IGP is better then intels cuz you cant overclock the intel gpus very well and looking at the 6800k reviews it looks like in some areas the the 6800k is actually quicker then a intel 2500k they trade blows in some tests so would have to agree with amd that the next gen games will run better on amd hardware and the intel hd5200 probably wont be used for gaming all that much cuz what kinda gamer would want a BGA form factor APU

Intel's mobile i7 competes with a stock fx8350 (actually it's faster) CPU wise and is 20-40% faster than the 5800k's GPU

everything though about OC'ing is completely true. Can't OC a mobile chip that often though...
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You don't really want to bring up die sizes between AMD/Intel

How do you put a value on something that's un-contended? It's faster in every aspect and uses significantly less power. You're closer to see that in a future laptop...

I didint compare the die size between AMD/intel. Lol

Gt3 is double size die than the gt2.

Its faster and it cost 3x the money of an apu while its only BGA. You cant even compare the gt3 with an AMD apu. With gt3 intel want to compete with the gt640m-650m nothing else, If you actually believe that a 500 bucks intel cpu compete in the same market as a 100-150 bucks amd apu then i dont know
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I didint compare the die size between AMD/intel. Lol

Gt3 is double size die than the gt2.

Its faster and it cost 3x the money of an apu while its only BGA. You cant even compare the gt3 with an AMD apu. With gt3 intel want to compete with the gt640m-650m nothing else, If you actually believe that a 500 bucks intel cpu compete in the same market as a 100-150 bucks amd apu then i dont know

So when did Die size even really matter? You expect performance to come from thin air?

and if you actually think the 6800k is even a POSSIBLE substitute, you're wayyyyyy off the mark. The speed of a fx 8350, 20-40% faster GPU performance than a 5800k, and half of the power consumption.....That CPU, whether expensive or not, is combining the best of everything AMD has into one thing. Battery life, GPU performance, multi-threaded performance.....all in one CPU. No sacrifices for the consumer.
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Nope, HD5200 is faster than the fastest AMD IGPs.

Expensive. But faster.
Why are you so hasty to reach a conclusion? It doesn't idle like a laptop igp, 37 watts is unheard-of.
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Why are you so hasty to reach a conclusion? It doesn't idle like a laptop igp, 37 watts is unheard-of.

that is ridiculous. What's the cause of that? Only a hardware fix or anything else?
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So when did Die size even really matter? You expect performance to come from thin air?

and if you actually think the 6800k is even a POSSIBLE substitute, you're wayyyyyy off the mark. The speed of a fx 8350, 20-40% faster GPU performance than a 5800k, and half of the power consumption.....That CPU, whether expensive or not, is combining the best of everything AMD has into one thing. Battery life, GPU performance, multi-threaded performance.....all in one CPU. No sacrifices for the consumer.

I don't get why price is such a big deal anyway. Comparing an i7-4950hq-equipped laptop with the closest comparable AMD-equipped laptop, what will the price difference be? 300? 400 at the most? We're talking about a computer that will run cooler, have significantly better battery life, and be faster in every single regard. Unless you replace your laptop every 6 months, how is that not worth the extra cost?
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