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The i7-4950hq uses either 47 or 55w. The 6800k (closest AMD competitor) is 100W. The 6700 is only 65W, but it's 3.7GHz instead of the 6800k's 4.1. Plus, I would imagine it uses a lower model "Radeon" integrated than the 6800k anyway.

Yes, if AMD improved their process, theirs would be just as energy efficient as Intel's, but that's a pointless statement.
Different meaning for both companies in the word TDP not that it will matter much if you bench them.
6800K doesn't have the vrm's that haswell uses to preserve power as it is a low end desktop chip at best.
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No, because it's not even on the horizon yet. If that were allowed, I would just look at Intel's roadmap, take their snazzy projection graphs, and say "well this is where they'll be in 3 years. Beat THAT!"
Well you shinny little ultra books aren't saturating the market yet either what is your point the PS4 isn't far away.
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hardly twice the power actually if you would use the same node and make the processor part Intel kind of efficient it would use up less power than this.

The i7-4950hq uses either 47 or 55w. The 6800k (closest AMD competitor) is 100W. The 6700 is only 65W, but it's 3.7GHz instead of the 6800k's 4.1. Plus, I would imagine it uses a lower model "Radeon" integrated than the 6800k anyway.

Yes, if AMD improved their process, theirs would be just as energy efficient as Intel's, but that's a pointless statement.

Why would you "imagine"? Look the thing up..

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7028/amd-richland-desktop-apus-now-available

Same GPU, same GPU clock. The difference is the 6800k has native support for DDR 2133, is overclockable, and the CPU is a bit faster.
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True you can't but that was not what the argument was about it was about who has the performance crown and it is very clear that it is actually AMD with their APU.
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read before posting it was about the PS4 APU
Also good backing with a single benchmark of a single game stud
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System power consumption and maybe even measured at the wall don't see the viability of this chart.

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"We ran the AMD APU both with and without a dedicated graphics card. Without one (using the internal IGP) the PC idles at only 46 Watts, that's okay, not super though. When we place load on the CPU and we see the power draw rise the system now consumes roughly 140 Watts. This is with merely an SSD and 8GB memory installed. Your average PC will draw a little more power if you add optical drives, HDDs, soundcards etc."

A laptop would BLOW UP with that kind of power usage.
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read before posting it was about the PS4 APU

I did read.

Can you buy whatever APU is in the ps4 right now? No. So its not the fastest.

Like someone else said I should just go down the Intel roadmap and point out that in 100000 years they will have a faster product too that isn't released yet...

And I'm pretty sure the chip inside the ps4 isn't even an APU its a SoC. It's in the same package, not die.
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True you can't but that was not what the argument was about it was about who has the performance crown and it is very clear that it is actually AMD with their APU.
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I'd like to point out that the 6800k isn't mentioned in that graph.

Other than that I'm staying out of this mess wheee.gif
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I did read.

Can you buy whatever APU is in the ps4 right now? No. So its not the fastest.

Like someone else said I should just go down the Intel roadmap and point out that in 100000 years they will have a faster product...
Can you buy the APU Intel has no because it is BGA.
Besides the HD7850 has 3 to 4 times the power of that Intel thing and has a few months to market the Ultrabooks aren't that available just yet.
AMD has the crown just deal with it.
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