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I just bought a 3930k so I'm not too dissapointed.. Even tho I would still have liked to see some vast improvements.
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I can't wait from AMD to make a sucessor to rumored FX-9000 "vishera", 8 core/4 module Steamroller at 5Ghz will have same single threaded performance as Sandy-Haswell.
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Well - hopefully once Intel gets around to releasing Ivy-E they at least use solder.

AMD has some promise but it seems that proper HSA is s till years off. Real pity that AMD does not have the "enthusiast" socket. I would like to see some OC'able Opterons in 4p in G34 socket. Atm I was forced to go Intel bcos they have the quadchannel ram socket that can overclock and AMD does not. (it's not the quadchannel I'm after but the amount of RAM at affordable price tag).

Wonder if delidding or using proper solder over the TIM would help haswell - probably not a lot as when you increase the densities it will get increasingly more difficult to get the heat out. Next they will need to start installing diamond "heat channels" in their CPU's tongue.gif
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I can't wait from AMD to make a sucessor to rumored FX-9000 "vishera", 8 core/4 module Steamroller at 5Ghz will have same single threaded performance as Sandy-Haswell.
not happening, maybe Sandy but not Ivy or Haswell..
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not happening, maybe Sandy but not Ivy or Haswell..

Add 30% to FX 8350:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/836?vs=697

So that what could 8 core Steamroller at 5Ghz would perform, in multi-threaded it will be above and at stock clocks it would be about the same. Can't wait for steamroller! tongue.gif
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not happening, maybe Sandy but not Ivy or Haswell..

Isn't that supposed to be 220w tdp? I thought that's what was said by Logan on YouTube. Good luck cooling it.
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nice i can save up for a 780 then and forget all other hardware upgrades, considering i already have 2 3770k systems.
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This is upsetting news. I'm fixin to upgrade soon and was thinking about haswell. Looks like will have to buy into dead end 1155 instead to get reasonable performance / heat ratio. Last thing I need in tucson az is more heat output from my computer during the summer, winter it's nice though.

Now to decide between 3770k or 3570k...
 
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My 4770k does 4.5 @1.18v with a max temp under intelburntest of ~68c on my silver arrow SE (yes, SE, with fans capped at 1.2k rpm) No delid.

I've seen reports a lot of stuff like h100i, 1.2-1.25v, 90-100c. But results seem to vary a LOT

They do indeed. Coming from a 920 to 4770k and I have to say, I'm disappointed. It was a pretty nice upgrade all around, but this OC limit I'm getting. Seems to me I hit the reverse "silicon lottery".I can barely get 4.3 at 1.295 set in BIOS /1.308 in CPU-Z. My temps are good, but it just doesn't want to be stable beyond 4.3 no matter what voltage I give it. (I haven't tried anything extreme). 4.5 at 1.335 is still unstable and I don't necessarily want to go beyond what I've already done. It's all on a robust WC loop and temps seem alright, but I'm pulling my hair out!!!

It would seem intel has definitely pulled a fast one with the review chips being "cherry picked" while the rest of retail is a mess.

Boy I miss my Athlon 64 FX-53. AMD needs to do something or we're all screwed.


EDIT: Also, I know they've always kind of "cherry picked" review samples, but in this case, it seems a bit extreme. All the reviews had great procs to OC with and retail doesn't represent any of that at all. Damnit Intel. You sneaky bastards!
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you guys can't expect better CPU OC ever generation, in fact expect worse. But clock for clock haswell is faster, microcode updates will continue to improve this and people fail to see how much BIOS effects performance even across same manufacturer. Someone take their Z77 and flash to an extremely early BIOS and then update to a newer one and bench on both,because I will do this and see big differences when i update all my benchmark runs.
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