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You disappoint me Intel, I bet if they simply spent more money on the TIM it would run cooler and clock better. On the other hand I hope AMD comes up with something good so I can continue - without buyer's remorse - my tradition of alternating between the two brands.

It's not the TIM, it's the contact between the die and IHS.
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My 4770k does 4.5 @1.18v with a max temp under intelburntest of ~68c on my silver arrow SE (yes, SE, with fans capped at 1.2k rpm) No delid.

I've seen reports a lot of stuff like h100i, 1.2-1.25v, 90-100c. But results seem to vary a LOT

The H100i seems to have a problem with the mounting hardware when it is used with haswell, it doesn't apply enough pressure to the CPU causing the high temperatures.
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Wow, my 2500k might be sticking around awhile longer. Depending how this next generation of 4+ core optimization gaming works out I might actually be getting a AMD processor.
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Reading the titles and articles of all these news postings about Haswell...It just sounds like Ivy bridge all over again. We'll know whats up when it's actually here and tested by hundreds/thousands of people, Come on OCN.

It's already being tested here on OCN by quite a few members, and the results are in line with this artical. Most can barely get 4.5 stable. And even fewer get 4.8 or above. Something a typical ivy can do fine with decent cooling.

IPC increased while OC ceiling decreased. So it's almost a dead copy of IVY. I feel sorry for the guys who went from ivy to haswell.
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It's already being tested here on OCN by quite a few members, and the results are in line with this artical. Most can barely get 4.5 stable. And even fewer get 4.8 or above. Something a typical ivy can do fine with decent cooling.

IPC increased while OC ceiling decreased. So it's almost a dead copy of IVY. I feel sorry for the guys who went from ivy to haswell.

In the desktop side IVY was not a big hit but if you look at the things it brought its accentually bigger then Haswell which is sad.
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Wow, Intel is the king of damage control.

"We got busted for sending cherry picked chips to reviewers and leaking them early, we better not take the blame for this and act like it's some sort of fluke! But it's only overclocking we're not responsible and it's not supported!"

I hate this turbo stuff for reviews, it needs to go away. All AMD, Intel, or Nvidia need to do it artificially inflate their numbers is send reviewers a good chip that runs cooler, so it can turbo better, thus runs at higher frequencies and looks better. It doesn't help everyone assumes advertised clock speeds are actual clock speeds and they take these numbers as raw IPC increases.

What we really need is for reviewers to repeat everything with turbo on and turbo off, and if you can't disable turbo or boost it needs to blatantly say that the review is inconclusive as it can't be decided just how fast it really is and how fast your actual chip will perform.

This kind of stuff hurts everyone. You're basically advertising chips as x% faster and y% overclockable yet that's not how it really is. Overall it has to do with the fact that reviewers are all bending over backwards for AMD, Nvidia, and Intel so they can keep those sweet, sweet review samples flowing.
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Maybe because thermal paste instead of solder...
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post #28 of 232
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Maybe because thermal paste instead of solder...

Or just that Intel sacrificed overclockability in favor of lower power consumption in their architectural tweaks.
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Or just that Intel sacrificed overclockability in favor of lower power consumption in their architectural tweaks.

Little bit of column a little bit of column b..
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Wish I stayed with my 5.3GHz 2700K. I wasn't happy with the OC of Ivy and now Haswell. Hopefully Ivy-E is worth something.
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