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And here I sit with my 970 Nahalem with absolutely no incentive to upgrade..../sigh



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SB launch was the day the competition was defeated, it was also the day real progress in CPU's ended.

I wouldn't say that. Sandy was great at the time, but AMD's current offerings are better.

Real progress ending? What lol? Haswell may be a letdown in that there wasn't a huge performance increase, but you can't argue with the power savings and innovative VRM design.
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I will be getting Haswell,it doesnt seem like that big of a let down not sure what every one is whining about.. Clock for clock its faster than previous gen,the heat sucks but with a proper loop i will be fine. If u get 4.5 - 4.7 ghz what are u really gaining by hiiting 5.0 plus? After all what do we expect Intel has the cpu market wrapped up there has been no competition from AMD for years. And i do not forsee any in the future.
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SB launch was the day the competition was defeated, it was also the day real progress in CPU's ended.

2008 is when amd was defeated. Bloomfield absolutely destroyed deneb.

The 965 was clocked at 3.4 and still couldn't keep up with a 2.66 920
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SB launch was the day the competition was defeated, it was also the day real progress in CPU's ended.

I wouldn't say that. Sandy was great at the time, but AMD's current offerings are better.

Real progress ending? What lol? Haswell may be a letdown in that there wasn't a huge performance increase, but you can't argue with the power savings and innovative VRM design.

Only if you mean the price. If Intel had competition at the high-end they could easily sell the i7-3930K for much cheaper, or, while still matching or beating AMD's solution, even make a 6 core SB-e or even regular SB without HT for a lower price, if they really wanted to keep 6 core with HT at a higher price point.
 
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I will be getting Haswell,it doesnt seem like that big of a let down not sure what every one is whining about.. Clock for clock its faster than previous gen,the heat sucks but with a proper loop i will be fine. If u get 4.5 - 4.7 ghz what are u really gaining by hiiting 5.0 plus? After all what do we expect Intel has the cpu market wrapped up there has been no competition from AMD for years. And i do not forsee any in the future.

Sure you might get a slight IPC boost... But I can clock the IB/SB higher and match in raw performance.

$700+ sidegrade just to get a better IGP and z87 chipset features? Nah...
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Only if you mean the price. If Intel had competition at the high-end they could easily sell the i7-3930K for much cheaper, or, while still matching or beating AMD's solution, even make a 6 core SB-e or even regular SB without HT for a lower price, if they really wanted to keep 6 core with HT at a higher price point.

But Intel doesn't. They know they'll still keep selling loads of CPUs regardless of the price thanks to sheer brand recognition (average joe) and favorable reviews (informed customers), except for a handful of i3s or Pentiums, but even they only get a minor $5 drop.
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Not the greatest news, though it'll be miles ahead of my Q9550, been waiting for these to drop so i can upgrade.

That said would have been good if they were lived up to their sample brethren
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Again as someone already said, letting us have 2 or 4 more cores would have taken the edge off, all things being painfully equal. redface.gif
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I wouldn't say that. Sandy was great at the time, but AMD's current offerings are better.

Real progress ending? What lol? Haswell may be a letdown in that there wasn't a huge performance increase, but you can't argue with the power savings and innovative VRM design.

AMD has a CPU better than Sandy? On what planet.
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Obviously they tuned the transistors for low voltage, In intel's eyes, shaving a couple W off a 10w chip is more important than maintaining the same OC performance as Ivy Bridge.
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