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Ok so first. I am very very new to this, computers, overclocking. been reading a lot lately just trying to understand basic components of the computer. I am wanting to build a new PC in the future. Right now im using a cheap 300$ emachines from best buy. EL 1850. It has worked for what i have used it for the past couple years (just web surfing)

Just recently i have started taking HD video of myself drag racing (with a gopro hero3) and my trusty desktop cant play the 720p video without being choppy and laggy. Like stated before I know next to nothing about computers, but in my efforts to speed and enhance video playback, i bought a Sapphire HD6450 graphics card and some g.skill RAM (4gb) and to much my surprise the video playback is STILL choppy. I have even overclocked the graphics card, which helped.

So after some background on my situation, would it be advantageous of me to go ahead and get a new processor? I was thinking of the Core 2 Duo e7500 wolfdale LGA 775 socket cpu.

what is currently in there is a celeron 450 conroe. Im not even sure if i can swap the two CPU's im only looking at the socket as being the compatibility factor...

and also would changing the processor give me the performance increase im looking for to play HD video well?
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To be blunt, I wouldn't waste your time. The 775 had a couple of gems of a CPU (Q6600, Q9550 just off the top of my head) that are still relatively quite strong, even today. However, the socket is dead. Investing in a 775 build doesn't make sense to me, as eventually even the best 775 CPU will not be able to handle normal loads, and you're stuck with other outdated technology (DDR2, SATA II, old BIOS, etc). Just buy a new motherboard, get modern components, and you'll be set for a few years. That 6450 you bought is really only appropriate for lower end applications, but if you're just playing back 720 or 1080p video, it will do fine. Do you have a CPU preference, i.e. AMD vs. Intel?
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if it is this, then it's a G41 chipset which to my knowledge supports all of Core 2 Duos including the E7500

http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/specs-el1850-01e-motherboard/
    
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I agree, it isn't worth your time. The E7500 may allow smooth playback of your videos, but there's no guarantee that your bios will even support it. The bioses in these low end machines frequently support only the processors they absolutely have to.There was a version of the EL-1850 that had an E5400 processor, which is based on the same Wolfdale-3M die that The E7500 is based on. So there is a chance it would work, but it really isn't worth your time.
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To be blunt, I wouldn't waste your time. The 775 had a couple of gems of a CPU (Q6600, Q9550 just off the top of my head) that are still relatively quite strong, even today. However, the socket is dead. Investing in a 775 build doesn't make sense to me, as eventually even the best 775 CPU will not be able to handle normal loads, and you're stuck with other outdated technology (DDR2, SATA II, old BIOS, etc). Just buy a new motherboard, get modern components, and you'll be set for a few years. That 6450 you bought is really only appropriate for lower end applications, but if you're just playing back 720 or 1080p video, it will do fine. Do you have a CPU preference, i.e. AMD vs. Intel?

For some reason I am leaning towards Intel, I have no reasoning behind this though. I really appreciate the input.

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Originally Posted by Vlasov_581 View Post

if it is this, then it's a G41 chipset which to my knowledge supports all of Core 2 Duos including the E7500

http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/specs-el1850-01e-motherboard/

this is the computer i have.

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Originally Posted by gplnpsb View Post

I agree, it isn't worth your time. The E7500 may allow smooth playback of your videos, but there's no guarantee that your bios will even support it. The bioses in these low end machines frequently support only the processors they absolutely have to.There was a version of the EL-1850 that had an E5400 processor, which is based on the same Wolfdale-3M die that The E7500 is based on. So there is a chance it would work, but it really isn't worth your time.

thanks for the input also. this is what Im mostly afraid of, the new cpu just not working at all. I wouldnt mind spending the 60 dollars to get some more performance out of this computer. i plan on building a new cpu here shortly, either way, just have to buy it piece by piece and doing a lot of research first..

the bios is made by american megatrends, version P01-A4

i again thank you guys for the quick responses. looking forward to learning a lot here.
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LGA775 is still a very competent socket, it just depends on what you wanna do with it. if you are gonna totally revamp it then you might as well go with something new. If you already had a really good 775 system then yeah. I know mine can handle metro 2033.
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I am currently running a 775 platform and I would not bother 'upgrading' to 775 considering its age. I would highly recommend like the others to go beyond the 775 platform.
If I were in your shoes I would upgrade to the newest platform (AMD's APU and Intels Hawell is a good choice if your budget allows for it) because in the long run you won't need to worry about upgrading this and that.
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LGA775 is still a very competent socket, it just depends on what you wanna do with it. if you are gonna totally revamp it then you might as well go with something new. If you already had a really good 775 system then yeah. I know mine can handle metro 2033.

if i wanted to simply get a new mobo and cpu and move to a 1155 socket could i use everything else in my current computer? hd/OS/ram/graphics card/etc... till i can upgrade those also?
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if i wanted to simply get a new mobo and cpu and move to a 1155 socket could i use everything else in my current computer? hd/OS/ram/graphics card/etc... till i can upgrade those also?

HDD can be reused, OS is locked to that machine due to it being a OEM copy. You could try to call Microsoft and beg them to activate the existing install on the newer hardware (mobo fried wink.gif ) but I doubt they would let you since it was a store bought machine. You would be better off looking on ebay for a genuine, used, retail copy of Win7 IMO if it doesn't work. RAM is DDR2 and all newer boards use DDR3, GPU will work NP. Case and PSU won't work either due to it most likely being a custom design or non-standard layout.

It would be better off to save all of your money and pull the trigger at one time so you can enjoy the warranty on the parts you bought. Sometimes crap happens soon after a build is up and running so if you waited to piece meal the system together over a year or two and a part craps out, it might be after the warranty is expired so you are SOL. You could save some money and by from people in the marketplace here on OCN and elsewhere on the net. If you know what you are looking for you can buy with confidence and save some cash in the process. Some of the parts may have no warranty but that is a negative of doing that. A lot of the warranties on parts follow the part and not the original purchaser (tied to the serial number) so you need to research that as well before buying if that is important to you.
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if i wanted to simply get a new mobo and cpu and move to a 1155 socket could i use everything else in my current computer? hd/OS/ram/graphics card/etc... till i can upgrade those also?

I would go with the 1155 route, or maybe consider an APU from AMD, depending on what you intend to use it for.

With either choice, you'll need to get a new OS, but you could re use your RAM, considering that it is DDR3 - according to the MB specs.
You can also re use your HDD and GPU.

Also with it being an OEM machine, I'd consider changing the Power Supply to a quality unit, OEM machines tend to save money on cheap motherboards and power supplies.
I would DEFINITELY change the PSU if you plan on adding a more powerful GPU in the future.

EDIT:
Having googled your machine, it looks to be an odd form factor, and it doesn't looks like micro ATX is compatible, even thought that's what your motherboard specs say.

Could you confirm that this is (roughly) your system?

http://webryalbum.biglobe.ne.jp/cgi-bin/was?id=10036680017c1f8dfccf7fc6742ffab118c63f430&aid=44448017274636821&pid=9e88978a50a2c5d2&sid=63532393237444640303f28363f26333f20303f2273757f2972756675677f22356d6f686f2f50343535303231323031303130323&fn=aph&fn=aph
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