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Hey there.
As a gamer, my dream monitor would be like that :

Be faster than your opponant :
- low response time <=1ms
- no input lag (indeed no onboard)

See clear as crystal anytime during action time :
- minimal motion blur (lightboost?)
- high refresh rate (>100hz)

Spot your enemy 2km away :
- high definition (1440p, 1600p, more?)

All the information on sight :
- 24" to 27" (but 24" seems definitely the best size to me, less eye movement to check all the informations displayed)

So yea I've seen the Asus and BenQ one running 144hz and having lightboost... but 1080p :/
I've seen the korean mintor 1440p which can OC to 120hz, but no lightboost and the response time isn't as good as TN panel.

I know IPS give better color but you pay it by response time... well from my point of view, I DON'T CARE about colors... why don't they make TN panel 1600p or 1440p????

Lightboost seems a nice workaround to kill motion blur, even if it wasn't supposed to be used that way... I definitely hope something will comes up out of that, from constructor, like a real tech made and optimised to kill motion blur inspired from lightboost revelation.

Also Igzo tech is coming, which sounds promising, high def on small screen...
4k on the way also (but I'm very doubtful our computer will have enough power to run demanding games on theses screen with sufficient fps to be competitive)

On the other side, project like occulus rift might be a future way to go...

All in all I feel like we are in a turn, new things coming up from constructor, or found by user (like lightboost to kill motion blur), which end to my question... what to do? get one of the korean OCable 1440p monitor? wait till constructor finaly make a true gamer screen (I still hope for some TN panel 1600p or 1440p or maybe igzo... with some LB tech)

What do you guys thinks?
Edited by ThinkPositive - 6/8/13 at 2:25am
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Well, not caring about colors is kind of silly unless you're color blind. I'd MUCH rather play a game in say... 1,600 x 900 on a more color-accurate, IPS display than in 1,920 x 1,080 on a TN panel. It's just not the same experience.

Yes, some of the Korean IPS displays can be "over-clocked", but it's a little silly to buy one of them as it's such a huge risk. (Yes, it works out great for tons of people, but the pros don't really out-weigh the risks with those monitors if you ask me.)

I'd say first, decide how much you're planning on spending. Give me a budget so I can find a monitor that's good for you. Then, decide exactly how big of a screen you do want. 30" doesn't take up too much more space than 27", and if you're trying to stay away from 30", maybe 27" isn't right for you.

That being said, you would probably want something around 24". Now, if you want my personal opinion, 120Hz isn't really worth it. It takes too much GPU power to display, and though it looks smooth and very fluid, there feels to be something unnatural about it. I feel as though it's at some odd center point between what reality would seem as, and what you're eyes are "trained" or used to, and thus, for me, just doesn't feel right.

I know you're worried about ghosting/input lag, but you should look into the Dell Ultrasharp monitors. They're IPS displays, with great colors. They're very nice and clear. They usually have tons of inputs, and though they aren't designed for gamers, they do game quite nicely. I have a Dell Ultrasharp U2711 (2,560 x 1,440) and I play not only PC games (either via DVI-D or DisplayPort) but I've also connected a Gamecube via composite, PS2 via component, Xbox 360 via HDMI, and other consoles/devices and never once have I had an issue with ghosting or input lag. And I'm one of those people who are really picky about these things. I refuse to play games at some of my friends houses because they're screens are complete trash. rolleyes.gif

So, just from this little quick surmise, I'd say maybe look into a Dell U2410. It's pricey, but it's a great monitor. It's also slightly higher than full HD/1080p, as it displays 1,920 x 1,200 pixels (16:10). Brand new can cost up to around $550, though you can often find it on sale, or lower. Maybe find a used model in excellent shape, or refurbished model, and save yourself some cash.
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post #3 of 16
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It's not that I don't care about colors, but much more that I would not sacrifice performance to colors

well, talking about budget... if you find me the perfect monitor which answer all my needs and even more, then I'll be ready to pay a lot...

I'm definitly a 24" guy, but could go to 27" (maximum) if what i'm looking for does not exist on 24".
But from what have seen about Igzo tech, they are able to produce really high dpi panel like 1600p on 13" so they might be able to do so on 24" tongue.gif

I'm running on gtx titan, and if it require more power to get motion blur kill, high definition etc... then sli it will be ^^

Can you give me a bit more feedback about that unnatural feel with 120hz? is it like it feels wrong? or makes you sick? or something like that?

"tons of inputs"... means input lag, and really I just need one input (be it dp or dvi-d...), I mean once it's plugged it's plugged tongue.gif

talking about being picky, I'm the kind of guy who buy some red cherry mx switches and teensy board to build and program it's own left hand pad because I coudnt find what fits my needs on the market... which lead to more natural position, reduced movement for each finger, fastest responsive switches i could find, and also programmed the teensy in a way to optimize the response time tongue.gif the result is ugly as hell, but ergonomic and the performance are way higher than what exists on the market, and trust me I would not trade my home made pad for a razer orbweaver or g13 etc...
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ICan you give me a bit more feedback about that unnatural feel with 120hz? is it like it feels wrong? or makes you sick? or something like that?

He doesn't know what he is talking about man.

120Hz feels amazing and perfectly natural. It's smooth as butter, a step closer to reality.

The best monitor for you is the Asus VG248QE.
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I'm so in between this asus and the korean 1440p display ocable to 120hz... let's put it this way :
asus vg248QA :
pro :
24"
120hz + lightboost
<=1ms response time

cons :
multiple input (+onboard) = input lag
1080p

Korean 1440p OCable :
pro :
might get 120hz (not 100% sure but at least >96hz)
1440p
single input and no onboard = minimal input lag

cons :
27" (require more eye movement to catch information)
5 to 8ms response time
no lightboost or any motion blur killer function

while my dream gaming monitor would be :
<=1ms response time
single input and no onboard
120hz + lightboost
1440p or 1600p on 24"
or
29" (21:9) 1440p curved screen (I said dream monitor tongue.gif)
NB : dont care if it's TN, IPS, PLS, IGZO panel

So I'm still wondering which one to go, or if I should wait till igzo tech gets to us...
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Let me try and make this easier for you.

If you are a serious competitive FPS gamer, ie. you play: CS:GO, Team Fortress 2, Tribes: Ascend, Quake Live
Then get the Asus VG248QE.

If you don't play any of the above games,
Then get the Qnix QX2710.

There is no point waiting for Igzo.
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Get the Samsung SA950D! I have the 23" model but I'm not sure if they still make it anymore. I do know you can still get the 27" one. I play alot of fps and I don't like having any larger than 23" for viewing especially if it's just 1080 anyways. The SA950D has awesome color reproduction...close to that of IPS panels. As ffar as IPS, they are awesome and I have owned a Shimian, although, I ended up selling it quickly. having the larger resolution just doesn't beat the 120hz refresh for gaming IMO.
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So I should get both >.<"
The asus as main monitor for my fps games (bf3, dayz, tf2, l4d2, crysis 3)
and a korean 1440p 120hz for my chill out time on mmo.
duh! :/
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You can always get a 1080p/120hz monitor and downsample from 1440p.I would get an asus 144hz monitor just for the lightboost hack from the moment that you have a titan
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Quote:
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Let me try and make this easier for you.

If you are a serious competitive FPS gamer, ie. you play: CS:GO, Team Fortress 2, Tribes: Ascend, Quake Live
Then get the Asus VG248QE.

If you don't play any of the above games,
Then get the Qnix QX2710.

There is no point waiting for Igzo.

This, though in all honesty, a 100hz 1440p monitor wouldn't really be THAT bad for competition. But it's a whole lot better for general gaming. I'd only get the Asus if you're very, very competitive.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThinkPositive View Post

So I should get both >.<"
The asus as main monitor for my fps games (bf3, dayz, tf2, l4d2, crysis 3)
and a korean 1440p 120hz for my chill out time on mmo.
duh! :/

Also this. And get a CRT for old games/custom res, and a 4K TV for netflix, just for good measure biggrin.gif
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