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What drivers did they use?
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Link.

In Crysis 3 @ 1080p

GTX 680 lost 44% at 4x and 87% at 8x.

7970 Ghz lost 39% at 4x and 92% at 8x.

So if Nvidia gpu's can't handle msaa then what does that make the 7970 ghz since the numbers are so close?

That's one game... I. General the AMD do so much better with AA then Nvidia do and it's been like that since AMD released the 4000 series...
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That's one game... I. General the AMD do so much better with AA then Nvidia do and it's been like that since AMD released the 4000 series...

From Hardocp review of Tomb Raider.......
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The AMD Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition was playable at 1920x1080 with FXAA enabled. All other graphics options were enabled at the highest setting, including TressFX. The Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition averaged 50.4 FPS at these settings. With 2X SSAA enabled the framerate dropped in to the mid 30's, and was a little too slow for us to call it playable. We had to settle for only using FXAA on this video card. We simply were unable to turn on either 2X or 4X SSAA while running TressFX. The added lag made the game too slow, and created environments where we could not successfully kill enemies or navigate through puzzles. Still, we felt that FXAA provided us an alternative to using no AA. We will compare how each video card does with each level of aliasing on shortly, and the image quality that it will provide.

The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 was fast enough to enable 2X SSAA at 1080p. It averaged 44.4 FPS with all graphics options set to ultimate. TressFX was also enabled. During the first half of the mission the framerate did not drop under 40 much while we had control of Lara. Each run through provided smooth and consistent gameplay with reflective framerates. The performance dropped between 35 and 45 FPS after about 5 minutes when we were fighting a boss, and fell off even farther in the cutscenes afterward. The lower framerates at the end of the run through did not effect our gameplay. Most of this area is full of close up cut scenes and cinematics.

So yet another game where Nvidia does fine. I have more examples to post but all of this is all missing the point.

The point was we had someone stated that Nvidia can't handle msaa. It is generally accepted as true that yes, AMD does do better. But one doing slightly better than the other doesn't mean that the other "can't handle" it because a statement like that is quite simply not the truth.
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From Hardocp review of Tomb Raider.......
So yet another game where Nvidia does fine. I have more examples to post but all of this is all missing the point.

The point was we had someone stated that Nvidia can't handle msaa. It is generally accepted as true that yes, AMD does do better. But one doing slightly better than the other doesn't mean that the other "can't handle" it because a statement like that is quite simply not the truth.

Using the [H] review might not be 100% accurate since both parties released drivers to improve TR performance. You'll need to compare more recent drivers. (From sources such this, the 7970 and 680 are not in the same league in TR)
But yes, I agree with your point that exaggeration doesn't help anyone. Yes, the 7970Ghz is faster than the 680 but it isn't as big as some make it out to be (7950 owner here).
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Using the [H] review might not be 100% accurate since both parties released drivers to improve TR performance. You'll need to compare more recent drivers. But yes, I agree with your point that exaggeration doesn't help anyone. Yes, the 7970Ghz is faster than the 680 but it isn't as big as some make it out to be (7950 owner here).

And OCN does suffer from a boatload of exaggeration on both sides from certain members here.

Always great to get a replace from somebody who is actually objective about things!
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From Hardocp review of Tomb Raider.......
So yet another game where Nvidia does fine. I have more examples to post but all of this is all missing the point.

The point was we had someone stated that Nvidia can't handle msaa. It is generally accepted as true that yes, AMD does do better. But one doing slightly better than the other doesn't mean that the other "can't handle" it because a statement like that is quite simply not the truth.

That's SSAA rolleyes.gif
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That's SSAA rolleyes.gif

If Nvidia "can't handle" MSAA then they shouldn't be able to handle the larger demands of SSAA either now would they? rolleyes.gif
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Comparing new Nvidia cards to AMD's current generation?

The 770 is no faster then a 680 and its OC ceiling is also no higher....

You consistently prove on here you have no idea what your talking about. The 770 is indeed faster than the 680. It's OC ceiling has been reviewed at being decent as well. I know it's a rebrand but it has tweaks done to improve upon it. And coming in at a decent price tag as well.

IIRC AMD is just rebranding most of their GPUs as well this year.

And let's not forget the massive frame time problems they had for ahwile. FPS is only half the story.
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You consistently prove on here you have no idea what your talking about. The 770 is indeed faster than the 680. It's OC ceiling has been reviewed at being decent as well. I know it's a rebrand but it has tweaks done to improve upon it. And coming in at a decent price tag as well.

IIRC AMD is just rebranding most of their GPUs as well this year.

And let's not forget the massive frame time problems they had for ahwile. FPS is only half the story.
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3-5 fps more with a Titan over a 7970. I like the new nvidia cards, and in some games they do really well. But in such a graphically tough game, where one would buy a titan for specifically, 3-5ps more is terrible imo.

for the price difference and the 7970 comes with 4 free games its worse than terrible (combined your looking at roughly $700 difference). Also, Crysis 3 imo is also a glorified 2d filter game engine with no real efficiency in either green or red corner.
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