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Is Realtek's ALC 1150 noticeably better than the ALC 898 chip?

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I recently picked up the Z87 UD4H and noticed most other motherboards in the price range had 1150 instead of 898. How big of a difference, if any, is there between the two?
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I can't subjectively tell yet because I haven't heard the new ALC1150. On paper and theoretically, it should be a substantial improvement, in-lines of going from an ALC898 to something like a cheap Xonar DG/DGX.
    
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I have yet to find a Realtek CODEC that actually meets it's specs, but the 898 was the closest, and by far the best of the Realtek chips. If the 1150 is actually an improvement, it might sound decent enough.
   
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Originally Posted by nleksan View Post

I have yet to find a Realtek CODEC that actually meets it's specs, but the 898 was the closest, and by far the best of the Realtek chips. If the 1150 is actually an improvement, it might sound decent enough.

I've heard that the individual implementation from one manufacturer to the other has as much to do with sound quality as the codec itself.

Edit: How would the ALC 898 on my UD4H compare to something like say, a decade-old Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2, or the ALC888 that's on my current motherboard?
Edited by Apolladan - 6/9/13 at 9:41pm
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Ive been wondering the same thing. Its unfortunate that all the Gigabyte boards have the ALC898 where as nearly all the rest of z87 boards from competitors run the ALC1150.
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I've heard that the individual implementation from one manufacturer to the other has as much to do with sound quality as the codec itself.

Edit: How would the ALC 898 on my UD4H compare to something like say, a decade-old Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2, or the ALC888 that's on my current motherboard?

Wow, it's been a long time since I last heard my Audigy 2.
But honestly, instead of saying they sound as good as one another or which being better... it's more of the fact that both the ALC898 and Audigy 2 has their own characteristic.

I use to remember the Audigy 2 produces a rather warm sounding signature where the ALC898 is a lot more cold and analytic. I honestly can't hear the difference between the 2 in terms of pure audio quality because as I said, they sound different rather than being one better over the other.

As for mobo manufacturers on the ALC1150, some of them have better circuitary. Gigabyte has op-amp replacements (gimmicky indeed). Asus and MSI has a pretty decent intergrated headphone amp.
If anything, most of them will sound decent but nothing to really be extremely excited about if one already own a soundcard.

It's taken way too long for motherboard manufacturers to focus on other parts of the board other than "Z0mg!!! 30 phases VRM with water cooling and blah blah blah".
    
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As for mobo manufacturers on the ALC1150, some of them have better circuitary. Gigabyte has op-amp replacements (gimmicky indeed). Asus and MSI has a pretty decent intergrated headphone amp.
Well the Gigabyte board I have uses a DRV632. How does that compare to the OPA1652 on the MSI GD65?
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I've noticed that the volume level is not as high on my MSI Z87 M-Power with ALC1150 vs my Asus board with ALC892. There is definitely a clarity improvement. Is anyone else noticing the slight decrease in max volume? I'm using Mix Master's to compare. I could be wrong but it just seems a tad less volume. Either way I still love the M-Power board!
Edited by dkizzy - 6/10/13 at 7:27pm
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I'm also looking for more opinions. Good it's an improvement, I'll finally have reason to ditch my Audigy 4zs from the bygone!
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