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post #1 of 11
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Why do the Linux distros that offer so much potential seem to die out?

Some of the ones that were so promising that died out were

Lindows
Linspire
and now Lubuntu, which was a rolling release based on Ubuntu and Fedora..

I can offer my thoughts on why, that Linux distros that do not follow the status quo are to be feared and are a threat to the rest of the Linux community. That's just my opinion and something I seemed to notice throughout the years and I am disappointed to say the least that another promising distro has been killed off.

How could a distro like this possibly die?

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Uh...what? Lubuntu isn't dead. Where'd you read that?
     
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I believe Lindows died or was renamed due to an issue with its name being offensive to Microsoft. I can't say for the other two, but to my knowledge Lubuntu is doing fine.

Edit:

Yeah, they're doing fine. Where'd you get that from?
http://lubuntu.net/blog

Edit2:

A simple Google search for 'Lindows' returned this as the first result:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._Lindows

Edit3: (man I should've just waited for one post lol)

A simple Google search for Linspire turned up this result: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linspire

Linspire is what Lindows was renamed to. The company which backed Xandros bought Linspire and killed the project in favor of Xandros.


Edited by Ferrari8608 - 6/8/13 at 1:00pm
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Sorry guys i meant Fuduntu, not Lubuntu. redface.gif
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Oh, yeah no idea there. I've read Fuduntu was well-regarded as a general purpose and media OS.

Brb, Google...

And Edit:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2036921/from-the-ashes-of-fuduntu-fuse-linux-is-born.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by The article 
Fewer than 2500 users still have Fuduntu installed, Fewt noted, adding that “the majority of our user base has already moved on to other distributions.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by The article 
Namely, following up on the early suggestion that at least part of the Fuduntu team would be starting work on a new project, more details on that effort have now emerged.

Specifically, the new distro has been provisionally named FuSE Linux, and it will be based on openSUSE, project communications leader Lee Ward wrote in a blog post on Saturday.

Edited by Ferrari8608 - 6/8/13 at 1:19pm
post #6 of 11
Probably because their user base in not big enough and developers don't see the point supporting it.
The distos you've mentioned are aimed towards new linux users and as you use linux more and more you move out to another disto with better support and larger community all the bling becomes pointless as you can do that with almost any distro.
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post #7 of 11
Cycle of life is all. And I wouldn't call distributions that are made to mimic Windows or mere forks that with most potential. Unless the fork offers something amazing over the original, it's really not going to get much traction.

As to Fuduntu; http://www.pcworld.com/article/2036921/from-the-ashes-of-fuduntu-fuse-linux-is-born.html
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A lot of the reasons behind it is the community. I consider the community to be the energy of a distribution. Just like in Physics, energy cannot be created or destroyed, just transformed. This is what you are seeing. When Mandriva/Mandrake went under, it was because the community shifted focus to another distribution of GNU/Linux. Most of these changes are caused by the development team pulling an Apple: "Dictate and shape development around what the development team thinks the users need and not what they want." It was apparent after they sacked Gael Duvall from the Mandriva team. mad.gif Another reason is the hype usage grew too fast and not enough developers. We see that in alot of startup distro's that burn out quick because they spend 25 hours a day working and 0 hours with their friends and family.

Mark Shuttleworth will be the end of Ubuntu. He comes off so pompous and with Mir vs. Wayland, Unity vs. Gnome, the developers have alienated a lot of the community to go to other distributions. I feel that the Ubuntu phone causing the development team to shift focus from the desktop realm to the "cloud" and mobile realm. A lot of people feel their is need of division between the two view points of computing, while others think to drop most support, and shift focus. It has driven Ubuntu from Wayland, and Gnome support to Unity and Mir, also SystemD vs. Upstart. The biggest decider if Ubuntu stands is if their phone succeeds. And with Mark saying that the MS market share bug report and that it is fixed that Linux has a majority of the market share, just shows that he is out of touch with reality. source. I wish it was fixed, but as a realist MS still has a majority of the market share and that won't change soon...

The true distros that haven't gone anywhere and are still around are Red Hat/Fedora, Gentoo, Slackware, Debian, Suse/OpenSuse, and the BSDs. Gentoo and Slackware because they are very close to the actual source code of the kernels and it is a very niche focused base. Debian and Fedora because they have the strongest Linux community out of all of them. SUSE, BSD, and Red Hat have huge market shares in enterprise world. Free/Open BSDs, CentOS, OpenSUSE have home office/ amateur server community that is anchoring them. They all have stood the test of time and are still around.

It comes down to, the developer's alienate the community, the community loses people to other newcomer distros with new visions, and growing to fast and burning out.
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post #9 of 11
Quote:
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Why do the Linux distros that offer so much potential seem to die out?
Lindows and Linspite are the same thing and in my opinion there's very little potential for a Linux distro to emulate the look of Windows because those two OSs function so massively different that a GUI change isn't going to convert users.

And Fuduntu was rotten before it started (dumb name and run by egotistical tyrants that didn't give a toss about their community). Fuduntu's forums were constantly just full of flames wars and I wholeheartedly blame the distro maintainers for that.
Edited by Plan9 - 6/9/13 at 5:03am
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Originally Posted by Ferrari8608 View Post

Oh, yeah no idea there. I've read Fuduntu was well-regarded as a general purpose and media OS.

Brb, Google...

And Edit:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2036921/from-the-ashes-of-fuduntu-fuse-linux-is-born.html

Oh great, another dumb name. Had they not learned from their previous balls up rolleyes.gif

So instead of naming their distro like a Ubuntu clone when it's got bugger all to do with Ubuntu (and thus instantly alienating most of your target audience), they've chosen a name that's already in common use on Linux (in fact not just Linux; FUSE drivers exist for UNIX as well) so nobody will have the slightest idea what this distro is. And the dumbest thing is the reason why they've picked that name. The suffix of OpenSuse is actually a German acronym (System Entwicklung) so it make zero sense to use that in they way they have. And then to prefix it with "Fu" just because it's first two letters from their former distro -which is already widely regarded as the reason Fuduntu failed to gain any traction- it just idiotic.

The guys behind these projects need to have their keyboards taken away from them before they waste everyones time with yet more failed projects rolleyes.gif
Edited by Plan9 - 6/9/13 at 5:10am
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