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Originally Posted by LuckySe7ens View Post

Get a lightweight inexpensive laptop with an a10 an SSD and dual channel ram, then build a powerful matx rig with what's left

"Gaming laptops" are big heavy and have no battery life. That sucks for someone whos lugging it around at school all day

ill talk to my dad about it and see what he says. thank you all for the help smile.gif
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Okay i just did some more research and took some things out. This is what i have now:

1. Samsung 840 Serious MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120gB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive

(Instead of the 64 gb one)

2. I selected the Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0 Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

( i hope thats good enough)

3. Im stuck on what motherboard to get now:
A) the ASRock 970 EXTREME# AME+ AMD USB 3.0( $84.99 )
ORRRRR
B) MSI 970A-G46 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX ( only $79.99 )

4. Im also stuck on what case to get since the RAIDMAX had complaints about space. People kept saying they had to cram it in so i dont want that issue. i picked these two out because they were recommended in a combo. Tell me if these are good
A) Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX mid tower computer case, w/ five fans, side panel window, top HDD Dock ($89.99 Pretty expensive)
ORRRRR
B) Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer case with three fans 1x front blue LED 120mm, 1x top 140mm fan, 1x rear 120mm fan. ($49.99 pretty dang cheap)

If you all have better case suggestions then im open to them. I looked up some that u suggested but they r alittle out of my price range. The 90$ one is pretty high for me. I also need great air flow.

Again thank you all so much. This project is super important to me. 900$ is alot of money and i wanna make sure im spending it wisely.

Hey Brett,

I have built myself a gamer mid-range budget build and was in somewhat of a similar dilema like yours (questions in regards to the case); I however ended up deciding to go with the one provided in the link, why?

1. ITS F!?@KIN SEXY!
2. It comes from a reputable company and is rock solid (I purchased two additional copies of the budget build to sell on craigslist.)
3. It comes w/ a 120mm Blue LED fan from CM that runs quite silent!
4. It has USB 3.0 connection in the front panel as well as an external HDD dock... yes I said that, a front panel dock for your HDDs! It's freaking sweet and I have used them myself to rip files off HDDs. (unlike the NZXT Source someone pointed out)
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Originally Posted by anadalite View Post

Ive just had a brief look on newegg ( uk so not used to what they stock) and this case is just fine -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146102

120 mm fan slots rear and top enough venting fro your top side of the motherboard and gfx cards usually exhaust out anyway. looks simple, simple is good at lower price point as less money went into design and more into materials ( usually) I like this. All the guys saying put money into the case I take their point but equally you need to remember what a case does. It is a harness. thats it. yes you need good cooling. BUT there is a line. I have an antec 900. In terms of air through put you cannot get much of a better case. some have thermal sections for the psu etc but for sheer air force I have two 120mm at the front, a 200mm at top, 120mm at back, 120mm side. over the years ive managed to drop it, stripped it and not put it all back together etc. now i dont think my rear 120mm is working only have one 120mm front and i have run it without a side for a long time. none of these things have had any significant impact on my temperatures at all. and ive had an i3 at 4.3ghz, e6550 at 3.8 ghz any my current i7 stock ( sorry guys!) on my very old TRUE with a single 120mm fan on it. and none of my fans are hugely high performance I have xilence fans which are great quiet and big throughput but aren't like my silverstone and again I have had huge throughput fans in the past that just havent made any difference.

In short if it has a couple exhaust slots and maybe an intake for SOME air throguhput frankly and in my experience fro your level of hardware tweaking that is entirely sufficient. the rest of the case is just for hanging your stuff. GET a nice case at some point, but if you are anything like me id rather get a 20 quid case and better gfx now that will perform just as well as the 100 quid case - they cool it and they hang your stuff. ( i will note that my 20 quid cheapie used 80mm fans, god they were loud... things have moved on since, get 120mm fans....)

HOWEVER

Powersupplies - now this is important to spend money on. Corsair - for a long time have produce top end psus at a good price point. I personally have an ocz stealthxtreme And it has been amazing every step of the way. Its a budget psu but it does a great job with good reviews.

this is the modular version of it.

http://www.ebuyer.com/152009-ocz-mxsp-series-500w-80-psu-modular-single-12v-rail-135mm-fan-ocz500mxsp

Cant find it on newegg though maybe canadian suppliers will have one. otherwise corsair all the way.

DROP the optical drives like everyone has said. You can always find someone with a spare dvd drive to borrow if you need one, who uses them anymore anyway?

RAM - I have 12 gb of ram because i got this as a kit ( and triple channel ) second hand. If i went out to get a pc now, i would put in 8 gb AT MOST 4gb is still all you need for gaming ( really i never go over 4gb) massive amounts of chrome windows and photoshop are what eat my ram but they use what they can. go with 8gb

MOTHERBOARD - asrock - for me I would never build a serious pc on an asrock base. just feels like an acer its cheap. MSI - better, GIGABYTE - best now i hate when people generalise makes, it all comes down to particular product lines. But I dont have time im afraid to go look into the current gen motherboards ( my kit is ages old now! original i7 ftw ) That being said, gigabyte have been a solid producer for years now and I love their stuff. ( I am however using a great msi motherboard as we speak so swings and roundabout but stick to the main providers )

HARD DRIVES

Personally I would just ditch the ssd. That is going to be very unpopular here! But I would personally grab two 1tb drives and raid them then add ssd another day ( unless you can afford the better psu etc and the ssd and a mech drive in that case go for it ) But I am still using all mech drives, I would love an ssd but i cant afford one right now and my pc works just fine. Its still fast, takes a bit to boot, takes a few seconds to load stuff but its not SLOW! Its just fine. If you are a gamer then I think your investment should be in gfx cards and psu. SIDENOTE - bear in mind the samsung 840 is about 300mbps slower on write than the 840 pro, I would save up and get the pro . Just something to research yourself.

PROCESSOR - ill keep this simple I second the move to an i5 for gaming. It performs amazing, amd have dropped the ball here for the time being AMD processors will do the job for sure, intel processors right now do the job better imho.

I would also like to touch on monitors here.

You have spoken about getting a serious gaming pc but have not specified the monitor you will be displaying it on which may be worth a bigger share in the investment. DONT FORGET mouse and keyboard too! ( my preference is g500 and whatever keyboard is laying around at the time but that is something you need to look into and something these guys will contest till the end of time!)

Sorry if all that isnt the best in terms of presentation but I have tried to cover everything logically.

First and foremost, good post, I think there's a good amount of helpful info here. I appreciate people taking there time to write posts such as this on.

In regards to your advice, I differ in some opinions such as:

Motherboard: Although I haven't personally purchased any ASRock Mobos I have done quite a bit of reading on them and they seem to be getting on there A game as a company; yes they're new and don't have a name such as ASUS but, nevertheless they are becoming quite the competitor in the low-mid range mobos and some people even have good feedback into the higher end AM3+. For the MSI board you advised is actually quite infamous for their AM3+ boards, apparently many of them go defective quite quickly (in regards only to their AM3+ Mobos). I do however agree with your Gigabyte mention as I have purchased a motherboard from them which ran damn solid (990FXA-UD3). Go with what your gut tells ya, Gigabyte & ASUS are just two well known Mobo brands but there are other reliable smaller names that perform quite on par but cost a fraction of the cost of the bigger names, Google is the key to all questions (any you might have for looking up a model/brand)...

Processor: Although you are correct in stating the i5 for it's higher performance I do not agree the OP should switch over to intel. AMD is still a great company and one who produces great CPUs, they might've dropped the ball w/ Bulldozer but have made allot of ground in regards to performance with Piledriver. You will see on a benchmark a somewhat clear performance per point difference between intel & AMD (depending on which two processors were talking about) but in real life application, you just wont be able to tell the difference. Games that run over 60FPS will make no difference, we as humans just can't tell the difference between 60FPS & 90FPS, it's been studied & proven. Besides that, games aren't as CPU intensive as they are GPU intensive, grab the $100-$200 you saved going AMD and bump your GPU to a 7950! I'd also drop down to a hexacore (FX-63xx) as most games use up to 4 cores except the few (Crysis 3, Battlefield 3, Skyrim, etc.). It all depends on the software you'll be running I suppose.

Best of luck in your build and let us know with what you end up with!
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AMD Gaming
(12 items)
 
Maxxed -SOLD-
(16 items)
 
Sheldon -SOLD-
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD PhenomII x4 965 BE Asus M5A78L-M LX Plus MSI Twin Frozr III Radeon ATI HD7950 G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133MHz CL9-11-10-28 1.65v (4... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 64Mb Cache 7200RPM ASUS  Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus (modded) Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer G235H LCD monitor (x2) Rosewill Gaming Keyboard RK-8100 Corsair CX500 80Plus Bronze Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 Advanced 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
A4tech X7 N/A Logtiech X-540 NZXT Sentry 2 Fan Controller 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8120 GA-990FXA-UD3 Sapphire Radeon HD6770 Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Seagate 1tb HDD 7200rpm Corsair H100 Windows 7 Ultimate Acer G235h 23.5 (Dual Monitor) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Rosewill RG630-S12 Thermaltake Chaser Mk-1 Logitech G5 
Audio
Logitech 5.1 set 
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