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Im working on a case mod and I need to sleeve my PSU. Yes it is non modular and I refuse to get extensions they are tacky. So my PSU (Silencer MKII 750 w) has a garbage ton of cables

And I was wondering to make the sleeving easier Could I cut off the extra cables? Ie. how one SATA power on the end creates another SATA power and so on so on. Im not planning on cutting them all for future upgrading but just some to make it easier. or is it possible to avoid this somehow?
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Well, technically, you COULD cut of the cables. Your PSU would still work as normal. But the problem is: what are you gonna do later on, when you want to use the cables you cut off? Then you'll need to buy a crimping tool (and a good one, because crimping is important), crimps itself, and you'll need to recrimp every cable where you cut them off. It's gonna take some time. But if you're up for the job, I'd say go the for it smile.gif Cutting off the wires won't damage your PSU. But do make sure that you do not touch these end connectors when your PSU is plugged in.
Also, it's very important to cut them off the right way. Unplug every pin from a connector, and cut the wire right behind the pin. This will give you the least amount of exces cable.

Hope this helps wink.gif
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Hello,

In addition to the points noted by Liradon, you may want to consider your PSU warranty. Not sure if the PSU is new or old, but if it is new, I do know that cutting cables or opening your case will immediately void your warranty.

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Well, technically, you COULD cut of the cables. Your PSU would still work as normal. But the problem is: what are you gonna do later on, when you want to use the cables you cut off? Then you'll need to buy a crimping tool (and a good one, because crimping is important), crimps itself, and you'll need to recrimp every cable where you cut them off. It's gonna take some time. But if you're up for the job, I'd say go the for it smile.gif Cutting off the wires won't damage your PSU. But do make sure that you do not touch these end connectors when your PSU is plugged in.
Also, it's very important to cut them off the right way. Unplug every pin from a connector, and cut the wire right behind the pin. This will give you the least amount of exces cable.

Hope this helps wink.gif
Crimp? No, when you are potentially dealing with amperage that could melt wires and start a fire you better be soldering your connections.

I wouldn't cut the wires off unless I was willing to take the PSU apart and cut AND cap the wires internally to prevent all possibility of shorts. It is just a bad idea.

As for cutting off the extra leads where you have 3-4 connections on one pigtail, you hit the nail on the head there. If you are sleeving you should have the connections apart anyways, so you might as well get rid of all the extra bits to avoid any possibility of shorts.
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Crimp? No, when you are potentially dealing with amperage that could melt wires and start a fire you better be soldering your connections.

I wouldn't cut the wires off unless I was willing to take the PSU apart and cut AND cap the wires internally to prevent all possibility of shorts. It is just a bad idea.
Why solder? Recrimping it gives a much cleaner result and it is as safe as soldering.
And how would you short your psu with cut-off wires? They are settled within a plastic coverage, touching nothing else but the bare connector.
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Why solder? Recrimping it gives a much cleaner result and it is as safe as soldering.
And how would you short your psu with cut-off wires? They are settled within a plastic coverage, touching nothing else but the bare connector.
1: Crimping is never just as safe as soldering. This is just a basic fact. Even one bad crimp can lead to you roasting the whole connection.
2: If he is just cutting off the extra connections at the ends of the pigtails, sure. That would be "ok", but you still run the risk of shorting something if, god forbid, somehow you manage to get something conductive to fall in there. A stray strand of wire for example, or a small screw possibly dropping in there... but as I said, if he is sleeving, he is taking the plugs apart anyways. Just remove the wire entirely.
3: Crimping looks like garbage compared to a properly soldered wire. Would you rather have a connector with a big dent in one side, or one that is uniformly round and undamaged?



And yes I realize that pretty much every PSU is crimped from the factory. I am just saying that if I was in there taking it apart anyways to sleeve, everything would be soldered. The factory is capable of repeatable crimps they trust well enough to warranty them. Your average person probably doesn't have a high end crimp tool, which means inconsistent results, and just one bad crimp can ruin your whole computer.
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I have never soldered single wire connections..to me it is pointless (and I have been sleeving for a long time.) There is nothing wrong with doing so, but if you are properly crimping, it is completely unnecessary. However, that being said, if you are joining two wires, your best connection is to solder them farther up the wire. thumb.gif
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1: Crimping is never just as safe as soldering. This is just a basic fact. Even one bad crimp can lead to you roasting the whole connection.
2: If he is just cutting off the extra connections at the ends of the pigtails, sure. That would be "ok", but you still run the risk of shorting something if, god forbid, somehow you manage to get something conductive to fall in there. A stray strand of wire for example, or a small screw possibly dropping in there... but as I said, if he is sleeving, he is taking the plugs apart anyways. Just remove the wire entirely.
3: Crimping looks like garbage compared to a properly soldered wire. Would you rather have a connector with a big dent in one side, or one that is uniformly round and undamaged?



And yes I realize that pretty much every PSU is crimped from the factory. I am just saying that if I was in there taking it apart anyways to sleeve, everything would be soldered. The factory is capable of repeatable crimps they trust well enough to warranty them. Your average person probably doesn't have a high end crimp tool, which means inconsistent results, and just one bad crimp can ruin your whole computer.

1. This website will tell you why crimping is better than soldering. Soldering creates a weak point in your cable, which is, indeed, the place where it is soldered together. I don't want to be rude, I honestly don't, but please do some research, because soldering does not give the same effect on everything.
2. How can you short out your PSU if your loop is not closed? even IF there drops a bolt into the connector, it's not touching anything else of the case.. That is just impossible.
3. What? So you are telling me soldering gives a better look than crimping? If there is something neater then soldering, it is DEFINETLY crimping. Doing it right, the connector looks exactly the same as you bought it... Soldering does leave a big bump in the middle of your cable, or wherever you cut it.
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Btw, with recrimping, I really mean the pin of teh connector. Crimping the 2 cable ends in one pin, like it was before. Not crimping the 2 cables in the middle. That would be ridiculous tongue.gif.
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Not at all..depends on how you are doing your wiring...The build I am currently working on..I did crimp my fan wires into the same connector..but I have also soldered them in the middle of the cable in other builds. If you have routed your wires properly, you aren't "weakening" your cables in any way by soldering multiple wires together.
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