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People need to avoid being rude to fellow OCN members.

Do gigabyte boards tie uncore to frequency? I left mine on auto while tuning my cpu overclock (i think best I got is 4.8ghz@1.44v/2vrin). Trying to fine tune uncore frequency now, i'm not sure what a max vring voltage would be (i think the sin guide on voltages isn't very accurate at all).
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Auto should be 1:1 on Gigabyte, yes. Have you used the Gigabyte Tweak Launcher? It shows all the voltages and freqs, and lets you change them real-time in Windows. It was very helpful when I was dialing in my uncore freq. I could leave the BIOS set at the stable settings, and then just make the test changes in Windows.

http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Utility/mb_utility_tweaklauncher_8series.exe
post #1673 of 3649
If anyone is still trying to figure out a good work flow for handling stability testing with adaptive voltage, I found this advice to be helpful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAZ9DGkRNoU&feature=youtu.be&t=16m13s

I'm using two versions of prime95, one with AVX and another without AVX.
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Auto should be 1:1 on Gigabyte, yes. Have you used the Gigabyte Tweak Launcher? It shows all the voltages and freqs, and lets you change them real-time in Windows. It was very helpful when I was dialing in my uncore freq. I could leave the BIOS set at the stable settings, and then just make the test changes in Windows.

http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Utility/mb_utility_tweaklauncher_8series.exe

I don't knwo what's going on, but for some reason I can't apply any Uncore changes besides reducing it from 3.9ghz (the default). This is on 1.175vring.

I tested my CPU overclock using auto (so 3.9 uncore) and messed with cpu clock, vcore, and vrin. Is it possible that my cpu overclock might have been affected by uncore, that I shouldve set it to like x35 or something?
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I tested my CPU overclock using auto (so 3.9 uncore) and messed with cpu clock, vcore, and vrin. Is it possible that my cpu overclock might have been affected by uncore, that I shouldve set it to like x35 or something?

I think uncore is the limiting factor for a lot of people's overclocks. They are stuck at 4.2 or something and don't know why, and it's because their uncore is increasing along with the core multiplier. I used the Aida cache test only (uncheck all the others) to find out what my uncore was stable at. Anything above 38x and it would fail that test in minutes. I think set it manually at 35x or 36x until you get the core speed established, then try increasing it. Takes uncore out of the equation that way.
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no I'm at 4.8ghz@1.44vcore/2vrin (might need 1.45v, i failed on 1.44/2vrin but may have been due to uncore tweaking although the 4.3ghz setting I applied didn't stick so...) for h264 benchmark stable (way more intensive than aida, friend says its way more intensive than p95 and it was h264 in general was like for that for me on z77 and im a streamer so it fits my needs well as a stress tester anyways). So I guess not too affected. I was running the defaults on the board with 1.15vring, so i guess 3.9ghz uncore.

I manually set it to 3.4ghz but didn't get a lower voltage stable so i guess it didn't bottleneck me.

Still, I'm unable to increase my uncore at all from 3.9ghz. what gives. even at 1.3vring using GTL. Like either using BIOS or GTL, I try to set uncore, and cpu-z/hwinfo still show me at 3.9ghz uncore (i can only decrease it successfully). However, in hwinfo summary page, it shows that my 'uncore max' is at 4.2ghz, or whatever I set it to.

This holds true even when I reduce my cpu clock (ie 4.6ghz on same 1.44/2v with 1.3vring, still can't raise uncore beyond 3.9ghz).
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friend says its way more intensive than p95

I said it made me chain crash in minutes when i was prime stable with avx disabled in both cases, which is a very niche case tongue.gif
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Still, I'm unable to increase my uncore at all from 3.9ghz. what gives

Bios version, wouldn't stick for me either
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I don't knwo what's going on, but for some reason I can't apply any Uncore changes besides reducing it from 3.9ghz (the default). This is on 1.175vring.

I tested my CPU overclock using auto (so 3.9 uncore) and messed with cpu clock, vcore, and vrin. Is it possible that my cpu overclock might have been affected by uncore, that I shouldve set it to like x35 or something?

I use the same 3.8 setting as Forceman and it keeps my OCs nice and stable at fairly low voltages. I would keep it below the stock turbo multiplier for added stability, and not much of a performance loss.
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friend says its way more intensive than p95

I said it made me chain crash in minutes when i was prime stable with avx disabled in both cases, which is a very niche case tongue.gif
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Still, I'm unable to increase my uncore at all from 3.9ghz. what gives

Bios version, wouldn't stick for me either

ahh i should've known! gigabyte bios never sticks settings. I'm using F5.

and i dont know what you mean by niche case, i regularly had 24+ hour prime95 stable overclocks fail in minutes of streaming on medium preset. I started to test it to see if it was a better stress tester than p95 but didn't get around to it, but it seemed very possible.
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I use the same 3.8 setting as Forceman and it keeps my OCs nice and stable at fairly low voltages. I would keep it below the stock turbo multiplier for added stability, and not much of a performance loss.

well i was stable at the stock turbo of 3.9, so im just keeping testing the same 4.8@1.44v/2vrin and raising uncore.

I'll try a different BIOS. just not sure what bios to use...

edit: oh cool f6 is out and stable.

edit2: issue fixed, testing ~4.4ghz uncore (1.15 wasnt stable x09c, 1.25v seems better). not sure on max vring though.
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How do I use adaptive voltage on ASUS motherboards? I left "CPU Core Voltage Offset" at "Auto" and I put in 1.345 like I did on manual for "Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage" but it just stays at 1.344 all the time. I get 46x100.00 1.345v when using manual mode
Edited by Turt1e - 7/20/13 at 7:59pm
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