Hello, whats the best motherboard under 200$ ? I will buy a 4770k
Best value? What are you doing? Best motherboard under $200 is obviously just the $200 Z87X-UD5H, as it has the strongest VRM and a ton of features. Or, perhaps the Z87X-OC if you are doing lots of LN2 overclocking as it has a ton of features for that, but VRM isn't as strong as UD5H (still more than strong enough for ln2 world records, it's almost identical to the UD3H/D3H VRM). Best value would be the Z87X-UD3H if you do tons of overclocking, fine tuning voltages and using a multimeter, some benching/validating or little bit of LN2, or the Z87X-D3H for standard overclocking (still a very capable board and same VRM as UD3H, just missing those on-board OC buttons and voltage points).
So it all depends on what you are doing, but if you are asking this question, then the answer likely means your best choice is the cheapest 3H class gigabyte motherboard you can find (ie microcenter has ud3h for super cheap and doesnt sell the D3H).
If you are asking about 'what is the best motherboard', you would also probably do better to just buy the i5-4670K. i7's hyperthreading is useless in games, and contributes very little, like 10-30% at most in even heavily multi-threaded programs. It's got it's place, I got one because I do heavily multithreaded programs like HD streaming and intense encoding due to my weak upload and 'slow' internet as well as CPU mining, as well as the superior HD4600 it has is useful for me since I don't use my graphics card for gaming and improved IMC since I do lots of RAM overclocking (i enjoy it and the programs I use appreciate it). But if all you do is gaming or general usage, an i7 is a total waste of money.
I'd also like to point out that you need to get at least an h100i for cooling, preferably an h110/x60 or XSPC kit or H220, so if you don't have $100+ in your budget for cooling, then ikt'd be silly to get an i7 or $200+ board. A 4.8ghz i5 Haswell will outperform a 4.4ghz i7 because you had to get an h80i or NH-D14 instead of a H220.
Micro-atx boarsd are a poor choice in general unless you want the small form factor. You pay for reduced quality in the VRM (that's like a car having a weaker engine, it IS the car). The exception is the asus micro-atx rog board, which is extremely good at RAM overclocking due to the latency.
will use it mainly for games and some overclock ~4.5ghz-4.7ghz
Get the Z87X-D3H (or ud3h if it's cheaper, like at microcenter), and an i5-4670K and the strongest cooler you can afford along with coollaboratory liquid uiltra *(cheapest place right now is a seller on ebay from germany, $18 shipped). An h220, an XSPC kit, or better yet a custom loop. If you are only doing games (you might as well say you are only playing solitaire, games don't stress a CPU much at all and you are better off spending the money ona graphics card, dont get an i7 unless you already have a 7970 or 2). It's downright stupid to get an i7 just for gaming...
Also, make sure you get a decent kit of RAM. RAM overclocking makes a big difference if you do it right, especially on Haswellw hich havs a really strong IMC. You can find 2400mhz+ RAM for the same price as the cheapest 1333mhz RAM if you buy smart.
Gskill 2400 CL11 2x4gb $63, this kit can easily do 3ghz as it's Hynix CFR (ie best modern ram except maybe HCH9 samsungs which are way more expensive). You can drop the price to $56 if you use the newegg 10% off memory coupon that they will *always* send you if you buy something from them, so buy some particular item first, and THEN buy this once you get the coupon after your first purchase (since it's free shipping).
The stock fans make a much higher pitched sound at higher RPMs and they become audible at lower RPMs. The SP120 are basically silent at idle RPMs of 1200, and when they increase in speed they make a lower pitched hum. Much more tolerable, especially when stress testing. I couldn't wait to replace them and I refused to stress test with them too. I don't think that your fans are the culprit, stress test temps have lots of variables and can vary depending on input values and ambient temps. But I do recommend switching to SP120s and connecting to you MB headers.
SP120s are actually pretty good fans. They have good statyic pressure, and even the grill on your case will completely mess up a fans airflow. This is why sickle flows, which have very high CFM, are absolutely awful fans in terms of actual cooling performance. That said, 2 Yate loons will outperform an SP120 and cost the same (and I'm curious if a yate loon is bvetter than an SP120, I wouldn't be surprised if it was).
i really need haswell owners opinions may be some of you knew i damaged my cpu when deliding and now i am thinking of either getiing a new i 3770k or i4770k but it is a really hard decision for me.i have asus maximus v formula .if i go with 3770k i will keep the mobo but if i upgrade to 4770k i need a new mobo so i amgoing to sell my v formula and get sabertooth z87.my question is: sabertooth z87 will be a better option from upgrading maximus v formula?Same goes for the 4770k it really worth %10 performance upgrade from 3770k considering 4770k is not o/c friendly.
What are you talking about, 4770K is a lot more overclock friendly than the 3770K with uncore access instead of being bottlenecked by it like you were on ivy (ie so you might have been able to oc more, but your uncore on ivy prevented you from going higher since they were tied together), split up VTT into 2 voltages, and way more RAM timings to mess with and a way better IMC (~2200mhz limit on Ivy, ~3ghz limit on Haswell, huge difference!).
Haswell, like Ivy, needs to be delidded. People said Ivy was bad for overclocking when it was first released too, turned out you just need to delid and then it's way better and cooler than Sandy. Haswell isn't cooler than Ivy, but as long as you delid, and buy proper cooling, it'll overclock just the same and just as far as Ivy and Sandy. The problem is you got a lot of idiots who buy a $400 CPU, and then put a $20 Hyper 212+ or $40, 5 year old Megahalems on it, and then derp derp they get high temps with a 200w CPU. Derp, no derp a 200w CPU is hot.
Sabertooth z87 is ridiculous, it's just a Pro (as I understand) that's overpriced, dont get that. I'm not even going to mention how it's designed to appeal to 16 year olds (hey, it works in certain military, heavily modded builds, ie motm nzxt phantom). If you are asking the questions you are asking, my guess is you really don't need an i7 or an asus maximus or anything like that, just get a Z87X-D3H. The only reason you should be getting such $150+ boards is if you are doing LN2 or using 3-4 graphics cards... The VRM on quality gigabyte mid-range boards is more than enough to do world record overclocking, as they already do.
4770K is just a step up, it's not really a big performance boost. A 2013 civic is not a 'worthy upgrade' over a 2012 civic, but it's nicer. If you are a building a new system, it'd be really silly to get Ivy over haswell. Haswell is better, if you are limited in funds then get a Sandy, which is still a competitive CPU. Haswell's features are it's much better IMC if you do lots of RAM overclocking, if all you are doing is gaming then you are just wasting money hardcore, as an i5 is more than enough.
On the other hand it's very easy to sell off computer comopnents. Just sell off your motherboard, and buy a Haswell i5 + Z87X-D3H. It sounds like you are wasting your money way too much. And you need to get proper cooling, get an H220 or at the very least an h110 for overclocking on haswell.
I've owned a couple Ivies, AMD chips, and I've messed with 2 haswells and 3 different z87 boards. I love Haswell, but that's also because I'm not playing solitaire
gaming. If you are gaming then a haswell i7 is going to be a waste and the features completely lost on you. Just like if you get some maximus board, you won't be using it at all. You don't buy a ferrari to drive around the neighborhood.