Originally Posted by Belial
You are right gigabyte did seem to have some issues at first for Z77. And given their train wrecks on P67/Z68, I would have made this exact tirade about anyone buying a high end Gigabyte board.
As for P67/Z68, it's well known there was no manual voltage control. Here's a quick google on it:
I sincerely wish to be wrong in my expectations on MSI on Z87. But given their track record, I'm not going to be dropping a ton of cash on a high end MSI board. I might consider the MSI Z87A-G41 if it's cheap enough (as in dirt cheap, which it currently isn't), but I would not consider them for a high end board...
You're judging intel boards by the track record of some MSI AMD boards. I didn't like the MSI p67 series too much, although they were still capable of competing with the best out there. I was much happier with z77, & z87 is looking pretty good too. Not sure what your complaint with them is, they will handle any cpu overclock your chips are capable of doing.
I haven't tested memory enough to pass judgement on the MSI z87 yet, the z77 didn't like the samsung low profile ram, but that stuff didn't OC well enough to be worth benching anyway, it was fine with PSC, hynix, & good samsung.
Honestly, for extreme overclocking & benching I do prefer a good Asus board in the last couple generations, although the MSI can keep up. 6Ghz + is not an issue for the MSI boards, & for people on air & water it isn't like the board will hold a chip back. Some of the low end boards have limited bios options, so the mid range to higher end boards are preferable to really push things.
The lack of offset did turn some people off with the z77 lineup, there are offset options in the z87 line. I never really saw offset as an issue, but for some people the extra ~ $10 a year if they always leave the PC idling was a deal breaker. Not judging, I've just never been an energy-conscious kind of guy.