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Prime runs a series of tests which can cause different levels of stress, so it's possible that your settings just get to a series of more stressful tests at around the 16 minute mark. Are you running blend, or small FFT?

To add to this, Blend on default settings (15 min per fft lengh) will often (or always?) jump to small fft sizes on the second run, which can be more than 10c hotter than many of the others
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IVR-Input voltage can help a lot. Digital and Analog io's too if you give them a small boost. I put them up a bit before, my 4.5 oc was rock solid with them at +0.1v, hours of prime, 50 runs max ram IBT all the likes; i went to put them down and bluescreened on the windows load screen, so nope ;p

Don't judge your temperatures on stress tests with AVX enabled. Either run them with AVX disabled or use x264 as a guide for temps, something like that.

Stress tests with AVX enabled seems to create a massive artificial temperature rise of as much as >20c, which led to a lot of the talk that haswell runs really hot, when the temperature gain is not present in any real world application as far as i know (with or without avx) leading to overclock that, for example at a set voltage and clock, will not pass 70c under 100% CPU load with x264 (lets say 1.2v on a h100i - very reasonable) but will hit 94c+ and thermal fail on a stress test with AVX enabled. Stress test without avx enabled, temps are more normal, and toggling avx on/off does not seem to have SIGNIFICANT changes for thermals on anything aside from stress tests

Using this i was able to take 4.7ghz on ~1.34vcore on a silver arrow, re-enabled avx and my temp maxes are in the 80's with x264 full CPU load with HT, a bit cooler than prime95 small fft-with-avx-disabled

So are you saying that prime 95 blend will increase temps crazy, but I won't see it during real world gaming? What should I use to test stability? I'm mostly a gamer, but I don't like the idea of going on a 15 man kill streak in BF3, then all of a sudden crashing. I would like to get a relatively stable OC first, then test it out in real world gaming.

Thanks for the reply btw thumb.gif
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So are you saying that prime 95 blend will increase temps crazy, but I won't see it during real world gaming? What should I use to test stability? I'm mostly a gamer, but I don't like the idea of going on a 15 man kill streak in BF3, then all of a sudden crashing. I would like to get a relatively stable OC first, then test it out in real world gaming.

Thanks for the reply btw thumb.gif

I run aida64 for a bit, if that works you can try a few other programs super pi 32m etc.. that wont heat the cpu up to much.
pure fpu hits 100c for me in 10 s flat.
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I have a question for you, i have had hell to pay with my gigabyte board, we have no adaptive voltage setting, ive been told so I set my manual voltage and it down volts, but I do not see this occurring on aidia 64, voltage is constant. have you noticed any bugs or issues with aidia 64 and manual voltage staying constant, Ive been specifically told from sins forum it downvolts, I have double checked me power plan and power settings and they are all correct. I do see on cpu-z it fluctuates but aidia 64 stays the same voltage.
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What benchmarks use AVX that people are using causing these temperatures?

BTW:
Didn't Intel CPU subforum say 'Haswell OC sticky coming soon'? What happened?
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I have a question for you, i have had hell to pay with my gigabyte board, we have no adaptive voltage setting, ive been told so I set my manual voltage and it down volts, but I do not see this occurring on aidia 64, voltage is constant. have you noticed any bugs or issues with aidia 64 and manual voltage staying constant, Ive been specifically told from sins forum it downvolts, I have double checked me power plan and power settings and they are all correct. I do see on cpu-z it fluctuates but aidia 64 stays the same voltage.

my asus z87-a using adaptive voltage downclocks and adapt to load.
dont run aida with adaptive on due to the temp then shots trough the roof.
maybe aida wont read voltage correctly from the board you use.
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So are you saying that prime 95 blend will increase temps crazy, but I won't see it during real world gaming?

Stress tests with AVX. Try it yourself.

x264 without AVX? 70c.

x264 with avx? 70c, maybe a few degrees higher


IBT without avx? ~73c

IBT with avx? >94c


Should have AVX on after setting overclock, because it is relevant for performance, but haswell seems to blow up if you have it enabled and run a stress test


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ive been told so I set my manual voltage and it down volts, but I do not see this occurring on aidia 64

Are you measuring Vcore with a multimeter from the readout point? Sin probably is.
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What benchmarks use AVX that people are using causing these temperatures?

BTW:
Didn't Intel CPU subforum say 'Haswell OC sticky coming soon'? What happened?

Benchmarks? I dunno, Cinebench certainly doesn't cause the >20c to appear out of nowhere. Prime and IBT blow up though. I havn't seen it in a real world application yet, there might be some niche ones
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I have a 330 batch Costa Rica chip. STILL waiting on rest of my computer stuff. NCIX is taking forever and then some.

you got a 4770k Costa Rica chip? from where did you order the chip?
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you got a 4770k Costa Rica chip? from where did you order the chip?
3670k. From Frys in California last week.
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