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That gonna be enough power for your rig? And while I'm at it, is that PSU rated for Haswell? They mentioned something about that last time I checked.
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That gonna be enough power for your rig? And while I'm at it, is that PSU rated for Haswell? They mentioned something about that last time I checked.

According to Seasonic, the X-460 Fanless is Haswell C6/C7 compatible.

As for the capacity, a 4770K + 780 should fit, but not by much.
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ok wat db lvl wil the pc produce
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Usually cooling by air will end up quieter than water, mostly is the pump noise, but if thats good enough for quiet setup, then go water.
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Have you consider Asus and their FanXpert2 suite, it can give you full control of the fans controlled via motherboard, you can even turn off fans depending on the conditions of your pc, you can create your own profiles per fan to control each differently. Here is a video in case you are interested, Cool Tech: ASUS Fan Xpert 2 Demo - Take Control of Your CPU Fans
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I love fractal design cases, specially the R4 is a wonderful case for building a quiet PC, even with some watercooling potential. to what i remember the R4 can fit 240 rads on the top and front, but not sure 360, are you modding the top of the case? A case that is also worth considering that its coming out soon, that might be appealing for water could be the Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case CC-9011030-WW - Black, you could even go a 360 front and 240 top.
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Why 14 fans?
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Have you considered Aquacomputer or Heatkiller waterblocks for the GTX780?
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Seasonic X-460 Fanless Gold 460W
In a system that will have at least 7 case fans and a waterpump, there is little reason to go fanless, a quiet psu will almost be the least of the source of noise. A quiet hybrid PSU (passive under certain temp) like Seasonic X560 or Kingiwn LZP-550 will be more than enough.

With that said, if you still qant to go fanless i would recommend to step into a little higher wattage,

Sesonic X-520, here some reviews for more info,
HardwareSecrets Seasonic Platinum Fanless 520W Power Supply Review
TechPowerUp Seasonic Platinum Series Fanless 520 W
SPCR Seasonic Platinum Fanless 520W PSU

Kingwin Striker 500 or its cheaper twin Rosewill SilentNight-500, here some reviews of both
JonnyGuru Reviews - Kingwin Stryker Fanless 500W
TechPowerUP Kingwin Stryker Fanless 500 W
HardwareSecrets Rosewill SilentNight 500W Power Supply Review
SPCR Rosewill Silent Night 500 Platinum 80 Plus

Now if you are overclocking, specially if you are going water, why not go for a higher watt psu and be sure that you have some room to overclock, like Seasonic X760/x860, Kingwin LPZ-750/850, Corsair AX760i/860i could be good options. If you are not overclocking, then dont go water, AIR will be quieter, there some good options for like Thermalright HR-02 macho that will should handle fine a 4770k, and gpu wait till the custom coolers come up.
Edited by Abula - 6/15/13 at 1:22pm
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this is more a dream pc ideas are just flying though my head
my ax1200 is the loudest thing in my current system and the hdd's
i want to try and make a gaming pc with bit more power than my i5 system and make 0db
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this is more a dream pc ideas are just flying though my head
my ax1200 is the loudest thing in my current system and the hdd's
i want to try and make a gaming pc with bit more power than my i5 system and make 0db
0db is impossible if you have moving parts, like fans and hdds, will have some db out. You could build a totally passive PC, but wont be as powerful as you want.

The trick is to chose quiet components so you dont have to fix a noise issue. Water on average will be more noisy, there are no silent pumps out that i know of, even decoupled, undervolted, isolated i can still hear them, so if you are perusing an extremely quiet pc then go AIR cooling. But there are points where water will become better, for example mulitple gpu setups and wanting a heavy overclock, this is where air will become too loud while water you practically only have to deal with the pump and you can add more rads and have them with quiet fans. You also have to check the envoirment that the pc will be on, there is little reason to go below the ambient noise you have, so let say a waterpump can be fine under certain conditions, but for example for recoding on a very quiet evnoirment i woudlnt recommend it.

But lets assume a single gpu, and that you are persuing a very quiet setup with haswell and gtx780,

CASE
Antec SOLO II - A very solid build laid back case, that has noise dampening polymer on the sides and a very nice rubber suspension to help with mechanical hdd noise. On the downside it has very limited space for cable management so get a modular PSU. On the Plus can fit almost any GPU in the market, tons of space.
Fracal Design Define R4 is also a good option with very good cablemanagement, you wll only lose the suspension of the hdds over the solo ii, still has rubber grommets but wont be as effective to with hdds noise, if you need more than two mechanical hdds then i would go with r4 as this is the limit of the solo II. The R4 will also give you much better watercooling support, can hold one 240 on top and another 240 on front, and still move one hdd cage inside the case for sustaining 3 hdds.

PSU
Kingwin Striker 500 / Rosewill Silent Night 500 - Wonderfull PSU made by SuperFlower, its rebrand from kingwin/Rosewill, its atm one of the best passive PSU, its not fully modular, but the none modular are the 24pin mobo, 8pin cpu, and two pcie 8pin, so you will use all of them on your setup, the rest are modular, it should work fine on both cases, the R4 and Solo II, just be sure to mount it correctly as it need to exit air up.
As an alternative Seasonic X520 platinum, but be aware there are lots of comments about seasonic X platinum series having coil whine, while this happens to all manufacturers, its being reported by a lot of users, so i would go with Superflower, it just terrible to chose all quiet components that at the end will just let you hear more the coil whine of a PSU.

MOTHERBOARD
I like a lot what Asus has done from Sandy Bridge with FanXpert, and just got better in Ivy with FanXpert2, it will give you total fan control on 3pin and 4pin pwm fans, if you chose fans that like undervolting you can run them very low and ramp them as the temp increases, so you will end up with extremely quiet setup at idle and very quiet setup in gaming. My pick here would be any of the Haswell Z87 Maximus VI ROG series, Hero, Formula or Extreme, depending on your budget. Check the following video for more info Cool Tech: ASUS Fan Xpert 2 Demo - Take Control of Your CPU Fans

CPU
You seem set on i7 4770k, seems a great stock cpu, but be warn that it gets very hot while overclocked, so with air overclocking will ramp up more the fans, i don't doubt you can do a mild overclocking but with air don't expect a very high overclock and be quiet, here i would go with water if you want to go high.

CPU Cooler
Thermlaright HR-02 Macho - A very good cooler for a quiet setup, it was design from HR-01 which was intended as a passive cooler, its fins are more widely separated than most of the air cooler on the market, this is to perform better with lower airflow. The included fan is decent, can work from 600rpm-1300rpm, its pwm so your asus fanxpert2 motherboard will control it easily. It should allow you do some overclocking, but since haswell run very hot on overvolting, then consider this will work against your deseried of quiet setup.
As an alternative you have all the twin tower coolers like Noctua NH-D14, Thermaright Silver Arrow, Prolimatech Genesis, Phantek PH-TC14PE, that will cool better than HR-02 but will also cost twice as much, and are not design for low airflow.

MEMORY
Here whatever you want, the HR02 asymmetrical design allows you to use tall memory of you want, as it start flush with the CPU. But if you go with twin tower coolers chose lower profile memory that will work with them, i like the new Samsung 30nm and Crucial Ballistic Sport low profile, both should allow you to use any of those twin tower heatsink without problem.

GPU
You seem set on a GTX780, i would wait for custom coolers to arrive, the EVGA AXC seems like a good option atm, but im personally waiting for MSI GTX780 Lightning. In case you want an aftermarket cooler, check Prolimatech MK-26.

SSD
Samsung 840 pro seems to be best ssd in the market atm, great performance and great track from their 470 series and 830 series, 840pro is raved by most ssd review sites, so this will be my pick.

HDD
This be careful as this will probably end up as the biggest source of noise, if you were willing to go the extra mile and drop them totally, there are ssds like Crucial M500 960gb that will give you good storage space, its performance is good, just not as fast as the 840pro, but not bad either. I personally prefer to have a small NAS/Server away from me for storing all stuff, and just use my PC with what i really use. But if you planning on using mechanical hdds then Solo II is a good option with its rubber suspension mechanism, this will not make a noise hdd silent but will help some, its important that you still chose a quiet or not so noisy mechanical hdd, my pick for a pure storage mechanical hdd will be WD 3tb RED.

FANS
Whatever the case i would try to create a possitve preasure it will help with dust and specially will make air exit though the passive PSU helping it cool itself, so i would add frontal fans to either solo ii or the R4. On the Solo II since its 120mm, read SPCR Fan Roundup #6: Scythe, Noiseblocker, Antec, Nexus, Thermalright, both the Noiseblocker M12-S1 and Gentle Typhoon GT12 came on top, either of those will be a great choice for your case fans, Nexus Basic 120mm is also a decent cheaper option, grab 3 the antec 120 isnt that good. If you go with the R4, it uses 140mm fans, i have read good comments about the included fans, so i would probably just move the back fan to the front, and add a TY147 on the back of the case for a pull push with the HR-02.

Personally what i would suggest is to go with Fractal Design define R4, since you already are planning on a water config, but building it with air will only cost you an extra $43 with the Thermalright HR-02, test it as it is with the components above described, play with fanXpert2, overclock it some and see if it performs as you wish, if you feel you want more performance the R4 will allow a very easy switch to water as it supports two 240 rads, get your gpu/cpu waterblocks, fitting and tubbing and add all stuff to your loop, this way you will experience a very quiet setup with air and compare it to water, hopping you can find a decently quiet pump, the only thing that you should consider if you going water for pushing it much more, is the PSU.
Edited by Abula - 6/16/13 at 9:30am
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