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Hello,

I need a mouse sensor for a project and I want to measure absolute distance with it. So this is just about the sensor, which has to be almost flawless.

So here's what I need:
A sensor, that has no acceleration, its not acceptable. It should be under 2% under any circumstances and if it has acceleration, it should be linear.
The sensor has to be able to track high speeds and accelerations. The thing will have a max. speed of 5m/s, altough it will never reach this speed (working area is around 2.5m × 1.8m), but acceleration might be high! Max. speed should be around 2-3m/s in real application.
The lift off distance can be high! In fact, the bigger the better, as it is hard to construct that the sensor will be always on the ground. So this is not a criteria that has to be watched.
SPI or I²C or similar interface.

I know that the ADNS 3090 would be good for this application, right? Any other or better suggestions?


Thanks for your help!


Edit: No anglesnapping or prediction aswell!
Edited by kernelpanix - 6/9/13 at 9:09am
post #2 of 23
The ADNS 3095, ADNS S3988, ADNS S3888 are all considered "flawless" sensors.
Edited by VindalooJim - 6/10/13 at 1:49am
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post #3 of 23
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One thing that I should have mentioned: The sensor does have to have documentation as I most likely won't plug a mouse in via USB!
Next thing, I forgot that LED sensors are soooo slow, the 3090 for instance has just about 1.5m/s, whereas the 9500 has 3.8m/s. ****!
post #4 of 23
A9500 isn't good to measure absolute distance, it is too dependent on movement speed.

On some surfaces A3090 tracks up to 4m/s.
post #5 of 23
Would be good to know about the surface you have to use.
post #6 of 23
I think the Phillips Twin Eye 2032 sensor was top-notch in numbers without noticeable acceleration in some surfaces, maybe even better than the Avago 3090 (and variants). I don´t have the proper equipment to prove that tho...

Recently noticed you will need a big LOD... if your surface distance is variable I don´t think the PTE will suit you.
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post #7 of 23
The Philips Twin Eye PLN 2032 tracks well enough if you never lift the mouse. If you do, you'll have to deal with the Z-axis bug. All laser sensors to date have tracking issues, so you're going to have to make some kind of a tradeoff.
post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by Artifact View Post

The Philips Twin Eye PLN 2032 tracks well enough if you never lift the mouse. If you do, you'll have to deal with the Z-axis bug..

Even if you never lift the mouse the Z-axis will still wreck you because of it triggering when you click on a cloth mouse pad. If you never lift the mouse and have a hard surface then it should be fine. The lifting z-axis movement isn't THAT bad, the click movement is what really kills you with that sensor.
post #9 of 23
I'm using one on a cloth pad (Razer Naga on Goliathus Speed) at this very moment, and not experiencing what you describe.
post #10 of 23
I was thinking along the same lines. The Philips Twin Eye PLN 2032 should be a good choice. However, if you never move at very slow speeds or maintaining surface contact proves problematic, you might be better off with the Philips Twin Eye PLN 2033.
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