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Originally Posted by looniam View Post

i used a post as a sample of what guru3D thinks, if your claim is true that the mods find it credible than so would many/most members

i have lurked on that forum for over a year now specifically in the driver section. it is not full or "rampart" of fermis dying as you say.
here:
Nvidia GeForce 320.18 WHQL Download and Discussion

habeas corpus.

I've read the entire thing...In fact, I made most of the mobile drivers you'll see there...

There are many people reporting issues and artifacting. -- That equals someone with an issue, doesn't it? In fact, I'd have a good discussion with you that artifacting = death.

There are a great many people with issues, some of those issues severe enough to kill a card. The Nvidia forums are absolutely full of fermi cards dying...Which, clearly, in it's context is beyond the severity of an "issue"...

I also see no legal writ having precedence and/or action in these threads, nor is anyone challenging your rights...so, your last quip, unfortunately has no bearing to the situation at hand.
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Like these?

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=4603027&postcount=99

That artifacts its close to death
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For the 780, there isn't one.

The issue with modifying the previous INF is that nothing exists to address an error so, if you have a "bump" in the road on a previous driver that's been modified, you just go down.

I built 4 PC's today with 780's. All 4 are the exact same hardware with the exception of the # of cards in each build.

3 are having issues, 1 is running what I'd describe as being okay.

Fresh windows, fresh HD's, fresh ram, fresh cards...Fresh drivers...

1 of them can't even make it through 3D Mark, the other makes it through 3D Mark but, takes a dump the moment I load something real like BF3 or Metro...The 3rd is stuttering like Russia's power grid AND freezes constantly, then attempts to recover...The 4th, has puttered through everything, is an SLI build...No idea why it's working.

Other vendors are reporting issues with the drivers...I talk to these guys daily...I have to believe them especially when I'm generating the same results.

My personal rig in sig w/3 780's is a complete mess...I can't even open a game with fresh installs of everything -- checked every hardware component...100% a driver issue.

I'm waiting to see what Nvidia says TBH...Especially considering this was largely a fail in terms of a launch driver.

That's unfortunate. My 780 has been running without issue in BF3 since the day I got it (release day). Let's hope it stays that way.
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So lets forget the rumours on the internet as some are saying and cos your card is alright then everybody else should be ok thumb.gif

Seems to me the members on here are having probs, yes, no? rolleyes.gif
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to those who are saying that there is no definite proof, how in the world would anyone provide a definite proof? crashes/blackouts happens at random, and even then, who in the right might would try to kill their card just to proove it to you?
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Oh you look so ..... You even deny the problems from users that post here. Because you dont have problems it doesnt mean that the problems doesnt exist.

Your logic also goes both ways, in case you haven't realized it yet. What we are doing is providing feedback.

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to those who are saying that there is no definite proof, how in the world would anyone provide a definite proof? crashes/blackouts happens at random, and even then, who in the right might would try to kill their card just to proove it to you?

The issues are there, yes. What I think people want is an actual fatality rate.
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The issues are there, yes. What I think people want is an actual fatality rate.

You'll never get one.

That's like asking McDonald's to give you an exact calorie count on every single menu item they sell that day...

All you'll get are estimations.

Most of the cards that have "died" thus far are older cards...There's proof, even in this thread, that load is ramping up to 100% and voltages are off...That would lead very quickly, to the death of a fermi.

There are just far too many variables to really pinpoint a cause beyond the driver and/or get real numbers...
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so those drivers are bad only to Fermi cores? I've been running them on 670 SLI (Kepler under win8) at home with zero issues, in fact they run smooth as butter and gave me a nice boost in 3dmark. at work I run them with old GTX 250 card and with 2 monitors - I see some desktop icons flicker sometimes when switching between windows (7 x64), but nothing wrong or related to crashes or else.
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i used a post as a sample of what guru3D thinks, if your claim is true that the mods find it credible than so would many/most members

i have lurked on that forum for over a year now specifically in the driver section. it is not full or "rampart" of fermis dying as you say.
here:
Nvidia GeForce 320.18 WHQL Download and Discussion

habeas corpus.

I've read the entire thing...In fact, I made most of the mobile drivers you'll see there...

There are many people reporting issues and artifacting. -- That equals someone with an issue, doesn't it? In fact, I'd have a good discussion with you that artifacting = death.

There are a great many people with issues, some of those issues severe enough to kill a card. The Nvidia forums are absolutely full of fermi cards dying...Which, clearly, in it's context is beyond the severity of an "issue"...

I also see no legal writ having precedence and/or action in these threads, nor is anyone challenging your rights...so, your last quip, unfortunately has no bearing to the situation at hand.

maybe explain somethin for you: habeas corpus is not strictly a legal writ; it is latin for "that you have the body." sorry i guess asking you in that manner to show me the proof went over your head.

now before you go venturing off in your credentialism as to modifying drivers; lets just stick with your earlier claims, shall we?

1) there are 100+ of reported damaged cards on the nvidia forum.
2) the thread on guru3D is rampant of fermi cards failing.

both of of those are completely false. i am not claiming that there can't be a problem; a rep from nvidia has communicated that they will look into releasing the overclocking cap that fermi suffered since the first kepler driver. but what i am saying as these "reports" are from a few users reporting to have an unresolved problem that has been circulating around and appear to be much larger than what they really are. i believe thats called FUD.

i beg your pardon but i do not recall ever having any discussion with you, let alone about how artifacting can damage cards. but if thats true and since the artifacting in BF3 and other games has been going on since after 314.22, then why after a few months has it not allegedly damaged cards?
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Most of the cards that have "died" thus far are older cards...There's proof, even in this thread, that load is ramping up to 100% and voltages are off...That would lead very quickly, to the death of a fermi.

excuse me if i correct you, two users reported not having a signal and after waiting a small time period, rebooted, rolled back the driver and haven't had any residue problem, yet. another user is experiencing substantial performance loss but has stated he will keep the thread informed. nothing about any loading to 100% issues were stated.
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