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Thinking of getting this combo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1325779

ASRock Z87 Extreme6 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI MOTHERBOARD WITH 4770K

to replace my current P67 Extreme 4 gen 3 MB with 2500k OC at 4.5GHZ.

Will the improvements be noticeable? (gtx780 and 840 PRO should be here any day now)

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I wouldn't say so. You could overclock your 2500k and get very similar performance to the 4770k at base.
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There will be almost no performance improvement. Especially if you can OC your 2500K even more.
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The guy above is very wrong. Upgrade to Haswell and z87. It makes EVERYTHING faster. Stick with the 2500k and you will loose about 10% of that 780 performance, even with the overclock. I have 2500k and the same motherboard currently, and plan to go to Haswell in a few weeks as well. Not to mention, motherboards for z87 are so much nicer then anything from z77 and below.
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The guy above is very wrong. Upgrade to Haswell and z87. It makes EVERYTHING faster. Stick with the 2500k and you will loose about 10% of that 780 performance, even with the overclock. I have 2500k and the same motherboard currently, and plan to go to Haswell in a few weeks as well. Not to mention, motherboards for z87 are so much nicer then anything from z77 and below.

Source? Besides PCIe 3.0.
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Haswell is ~15% faster clock per clock over SB. It OCs worse, so let's assume after max OC, the difference is 10%. That's not kind of performance difference that would bottleneck 780 by 10%. If it does bottleneck it will only affect maximum FPS which doesn't matter as long as minimum FPS over 60 (120 for 120Hz monitors), or 30FPS for people who're okay with that.

Anyway if you got money to waste, sure. Otherwise, there is no point in upgrading besides 6 SATA 6Gbps ports.
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There will be almost no performance improvement. Especially if you can OC your 2500K even more.

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The guy above is very wrong. Upgrade to Haswell and z87. It makes EVERYTHING faster. Stick with the 2500k and you will loose about 10% of that 780 performance, even with the overclock. I have 2500k and the same motherboard currently, and plan to go to Haswell in a few weeks as well. Not to mention, motherboards for z87 are so much nicer then anything from z77 and below.

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I second the whistle.gif, but honestly, Dexel's been around the block.
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post #9 of 13
Sin's review shows us that different things need to be looked at when overclocking Haswell.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1396582/the-gigabyte-z87x-oc-review-with-4770k

The motherboards on offer are also giving performance boosts, Native usb 3.0, SATA 6Gps etc.

While I am no overclocking expert and have no experience with Haswell myself (YET) , I see a heck of a lot of knee jerk posts telling us what Haswell can't do, from a lot of people who don't even own one.

Good luck with your choices/upgrade Fist of Freedom, while there is a ton of great advice on these forums, not everyone will understand the reasoning behind an upgrade, it's not always just about a technology leap smile.gif
    
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The guy above is very wrong. Upgrade to Haswell and z87. It makes EVERYTHING faster. Stick with the 2500k and you will loose about 10% of that 780 performance, even with the overclock. I have 2500k and the same motherboard currently, and plan to go to Haswell in a few weeks as well. Not to mention, motherboards for z87 are so much nicer then anything from z77 and below.

Subjective looks aside (the P67 Extreme 4 Gen3 is a nice looking motherboard already IMHO), how in the world do you lose 10% performance with a GTX 780 and a 2500k? The only way i've seen bottlenecks (hence loss of performance) is trying to run a lowend CPU with 2+ GPU's, like when i ran my i3 with 2x GTX 470's (not my smartest idea, but it worked). Hell, even my 1st generation Xeon (core i7-930) running @ 4 GHz gave enough juice to run my 7950+7970 Xfire setup on a PCI-E 2.0 configuration, even with HT disabled.

Considering how hot Haswell gets when OCing (unless you delid) and how low it can OC even with all the new OCing features from Intel, i'd say stay with the 2500k. You could get more than 4.5 GHz off it if your cooling is up to that, and get more performance off your money. Your motherboard should be up to that task (my P67 Extreme 4 Gen2 can take my i7-2600k to 4.7 GHz fully stable and 5.2 GHz if i really push it for benching)

I'd say hold to upgrade unless you really want native USB 3.0, or you will be using 6 SSD's (only reason that warrants the extra SATA III ports), but PCI-E 3.0 isn't worth it for gaming, and even if you want that, you can get a cheaper upgrade with a 3570K or a 3770K on that same motherboard (since it has GEN3 switches).
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