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Check out the Feenix Nascita. $97 well worth the money.
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Check out the Feenix Nascita. $97 well worth the money.

I wouldn't call that standard OEM shape + a9500 worth 97$...

In fact, I wouldn't call any mouse worth 97$
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I wouldn't call that standard OEM shape + a9500 worth 97$...

In fact, I wouldn't call any mouse worth 97$

A mouse with literally perfect tracking up to 50 G and 10 m/s on most surfaces, with a mass of 50 g without cable, adjustable upwards, your choice of number of buttons and button positions, your choice of switches, your choice of cord, your choice of wheel, your choice of shape, platformindependent configuration software, your choice of coating, etc. Imagine that mouse. If you wouldn't pay 97$ for it, then I guess you're pretty happy with the mouse/mice you already have. To those of us who are more desperate, a mouse we really like may well be worth that amount.

Of course I agree about the 9500. That piece of junk shouldn't even be considered gaming grade.
post #14 of 18
its really about personal preference, the nascita is one of the most comfortable mouse i've ever owned. However nothing to do with what the OP said really, i just suggested a mouse and perhaps he might decide to look at it.
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A mouse with literally perfect tracking up to 50 G and 10 m/s on most surfaces, with a mass of 50 g without cable, adjustable upwards, your choice of number of buttons and button positions, your choice of switches, your choice of cord, your choice of wheel, your choice of shape, platformindependent configuration software, your choice of coating, etc. Imagine that mouse. If you wouldn't pay 97$ for it, then I guess you're pretty happy with the mouse/mice you already have. To those of us who are more desperate, a mouse we really like may well be worth that amount.

Of course I agree about the 9500. That piece of junk shouldn't even be considered gaming grade.

Fair enough, I was talking about existing mice wink.gif
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Ok, so let's talk sensors for a minute. I'm not knowledgeable at all when it comes to this. I thought it was just optical (w/ the red glow) & laser (with no visible glow) and that was that. This would explain my confusion when I went from my Logitech MX Revolution, which had been the best mouse I ever used until it started double-clicking everything, to the Logitech G700. I was severely disappointed in the performance of the g700, compared to the MX Rev. The g700 has terrible, absolutely terrible z-axis tracking. The cursor will move all over the place when I lift my mouse to reposition it, which I have to do a lot since I have about 7 inches of desk space for my mouse. According to the gaming sensor list thread, it has a S9500 sensor. We've already established that the A3090 in the Roccat Savu and others is a great sensor. Looking at other mice in that list, I see S and A and sometimes the numbers repeat with different letters. What does the S or A mean, and is the 4-digit number anything other than a part number? Can I read the sensor number like I can a video card number (ex: 7970, 7950; 680, 670, etc.) or is there no rhyme or reason to them? What are some good sensors or things to look for in a sensor?
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Ok, so let's talk sensors for a minute. I'm not knowledgeable at all when it comes to this. I thought it was just optical (w/ the red glow) & laser (with no visible glow) and that was that. This would explain my confusion when I went from my Logitech MX Revolution, which had been the best mouse I ever used until it started double-clicking everything, to the Logitech G700. I was severely disappointed in the performance of the g700, compared to the MX Rev. The g700 has terrible, absolutely terrible z-axis tracking. The cursor will move all over the place when I lift my mouse to reposition it, which I have to do a lot since I have about 7 inches of desk space for my mouse. According to the gaming sensor list thread, it has a S9500 sensor. We've already established that the A3090 in the Roccat Savu and others is a great sensor. Looking at other mice in that list, I see S and A and sometimes the numbers repeat with different letters. What does the S or A mean, and is the 4-digit number anything other than a part number? Can I read the sensor number like I can a video card number (ex: 7970, 7950; 680, 670, etc.) or is there no rhyme or reason to them? What are some good sensors or things to look for in a sensor?

It's probably best to wait for people with more insider knowledge (like Skylit) for an explanation as to why the names are like that. Also what the difference between Axxxx and Sxxxx is, because afaik there is none.

What I can tell you:
A20xx and A30xx are what we commonly call optical sensors which use either red LEDs (visible) as illumination source or infrared LEDs (invisible)

A60xx and A9xxx are what is commonly called laser sensors which means they are optical sensors that use a VCSE Laser as illumination source (invisible as well)

Those are only the names of Avago sensors, then there's PixArt and PTE sensors as well...
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post #18 of 18
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So I put together a list of potential mice, all of which use the A3090 sensor:

Roccat Savu
R.A.T. 3
CM Recon & Spawn
Corsair M40
Tt Saphira
Zowie AM & EC eVo

After countless hours of reading reviews, comparing sizes, shapes, weights, and user experiences, I decided to go with the Roccat Savu. I just ordered one on Amazon, along with the CM Skorpion mouse bungee. It's similar in size and shape to my g700, which I actually like as far as size and shape go.

I simply can't deal with the coin-toss reliability of my g700 any longer. When it's wireless, sometimes the dpi will randomly change before remembering what I set the default at. Sometimes clicking won't work right, and the only thing that responds is RocketDock. Clicking on a window is the same as clicking on blank desktop space, causing the window to lose focus. This lasts for anywhere between 30 seconds to several minutes, sometimes up to a half hour or more. I usually get tired of using keyboard shortcuts to do everything after about 2 minutes and just reboot and the problem goes away. Switching between wired and wireless doesn't seem to affect this in any way.
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