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I expect intel to use Tim on the 4820K and solder on the 6 cores
i hope they do away with TIM all together come broadwell. In the case of the 4820k i would hope that wouldn't use tim either even tho thats the lower end of the e series it still deserves better IHS. In all honesty i think they should have droped the tim when ivy had issues. In other words haswell shouldn't have these problems. I almost hope that the reason haswell got stuck with this is because before intel realized it was an issue haswell was already in production. I know thats wishfull thinking and unlikely but i can have hope can't I. Really in the end i won't have a good idea of the future of my next build until that first ivybridge-e hits. Then i will know for sure if this problem will effect me. I still hope for everyone else that doesn't spend such top dollar on cpus that this issue can be laid to rest in the next couple years.

P.S. I just watch my first video of IHS removal and i have to say i don't want to do that with a thousand dollar cpu. I mean i might if thats what its going to take to get a decent overclock come my next build time.
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ughhhh...I hope Intel uses solder on all the Ivy-E line....we'll just have to see when September rolls around.
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No. They will be soldered.

Why? Because TDP exceeds the 85W (I think) limit that Intel sets for the processors to be soldered.
   
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No. They will be soldered.

Why? Because TDP exceeds the 85W (I think) limit that Intel sets for the processors to be soldered.

To bad the i7-4770k wasn't just rated just 1 or 2 watts higher TDP frown.gif
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Ivy is when tri-gate started, which reduced current leakage, that means the current actually runs through the copper, which is why they run hotter. We should be thankful they came up with a solution for this. More heat just means you need to get better cooling if you want to clock higher. The IPC gain from generation to generation is pretty significant.

Considering that my old Q8200 quad core single thread = 54 Gflops and never for hotter than 49C, and a i5 3570k pulls 84 Gflops standard but goes to 60C, I think this is how they're going to get us to higher computing. Then so be it, Thermals are easier to fix on our end as customers vs reengineering fundamental architecture.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/185643/intel-core-i7-ivy-bridge-e-and-core-i3-haswell-series-detailed.html

well there is some news on the ivy-e but nothing on if its soldered or not. It doesn't seem like much of an upgrade to me to be honest. Not for 600$+ i may just hold onto my i73930k until intel realises a extreme processor with new features and a decent performance gain say 15%. I really can't be sure until they release because for all i know they may end up quit a bit faster clock for clock and overclock to 5ghz plus with decent cooling. just have to wait and see
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post #17 of 17
I highly doubt that TIM-IHS is going away on high end CPUs. The military and Govt uses a fair amount of overclocked units on LN2. After the problems w/ Sandy and LN2, the TIM-IHS surfaced. It isn't going away.
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