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Also, would I be looking into de-lidding these new processors? is it worth such a thing?

if you do the method with out the razor blade and it with care.
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Bummed out, they said they shipped the 660s. So no convincing them about the Ti. I was lucky to get offered a 6 series instead of 5, oh well.

I don't think they are arriving BNIB, but they will give me a 6month warranty on them (my warranty on 470s is almost 1 month from ending the 3 year mark).


Shame these cards really can't OC far, I believe I can BIOS flash them and that's it...

I also don't see myself getting much for "Fixed/refurbished" 660s... They retail new @ $215.... I doubt I can get much for them refurbished.

Looks like I might have to stick with these GPUs for another year or two.... Might give me enough time to see what games have to offer in the future. I only play @ 1600x1200 for now, and I will definitely go ahead and upgrade to haswell + new mobo. (most likelyl 4670k + UD4H)
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Bummed out, they said they shipped the 660s. So no convincing them about the Ti. I was lucky to get offered a 6 series instead of 5, oh well.

I don't think they are arriving BNIB, but they will give me a 6month warranty on them (my warranty on 470s is almost 1 month from ending the 3 year mark).


Shame these cards really can't OC far, I believe I can BIOS flash them and that's it...

I also don't see myself getting much for "Fixed/refurbished" 660s... They retail new @ $215.... I doubt I can get much for them refurbished.

Looks like I might have to stick with these GPUs for another year or two.... Might give me enough time to see what games have to offer in the future. I only play @ 1600x1200 for now, and I will definitely go ahead and upgrade to haswell + new mobo. (most likelyl 4670k + UD4H)

660's are on par with overclocked 780's so you shouldnt be disappointed
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660's are on par with overclocked 780's so you shouldnt be disappointed

As in, two of my (SOON-TO-BE*caps*) SLI'd Gigabyte GTX 660's (that will be BIOS flashed, and overclocked) are comparable to one ____ GTX 780 (that is overclocked, not stock)?
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As in, two of my (SOON-TO-BE*caps*) SLI'd Gigabyte GTX 660's (that will be BIOS flashed, and overclocked) are comparable to one ____ GTX 780 (that is overclocked, not stock)?

I already stated this

But have no interest in bickering with BiG StroOnZ because he can't do math and can't tell that if the scores of a GTX680 are different that the gtx660 sli would be as well. GTX680 isn't going to gain a decent amount frames just for the 660 sli to stay still.


Personally I think it is more stock GTX780 speed, not OCed 780 speed. Though those 660's overclocked is a different story.
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Yeah, but they aren't over-clocking cards. It isn't the Ti version, so what can I do to go about this? Just a BIOS flash, and that's it?
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I already stated this

But have no interest in bickering with BiG StroOnZ because he can't do math and can't tell that if the scores of a GTX680 are different that the gtx660 sli would be as well. GTX680 isn't going to gain a decent amount frames just for the 660 sli to stay still.


Personally I think it is more stock GTX780 speed, not OCed 780 speed. Though those 660's overclocked is a different story.

No you just cannot speak proper English, and thus do not make an iota of sense. Since your lack of communications skills frequently results in you not making any sense. I'm resulted in confusion because as stated earlier in this paragraph, you do not explain yourself with complete ideas. Instead you go off into "la la" land consistently, where you start thinking out loud mid sentence without any basis or context to what you are talking about. It has nothing to do with poor math skills, it has to do with your inability to explain any idea straightforward.

Now that you explain yourself, the scores of a 660 SLI are probably a bit better than GTX 680 since the 780 is a bit better than the 680 and of course the 660 SLI is slightly better than the 780.

You have no interest in "bickering" because you have been disproved multiple times, consecutively with every single response you have made thus far. You continue to talk in the background about me because you are just that delusional as stated multiple times.

Back to start again. 660's flashed and overclocked = slightly faster than 770 overclocked. Not 780. Why? Because flash that 780 and overclock it and it makes the 660's non-existent. As already stated in the last post that you refused to reply to you because your ignorance overwhelms your insane amount of arrogance.

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Yeah, but they aren't over-clocking cards. It isn't the Ti version, so what can I do to go about this? Just a BIOS flash, and that's it?

Even with the Bios Flash and overclocking, don't expect anything that DzillaXx is suggesting. He's so far off base from the truth of the results you are going to get it is not even funny. The cards will be more than capable, and they will do a very decent job don't get me wrong. Except like stated you are probably going to be in the 11,500-12,500 3DMark11 Performance range. More than that is very unlikely.
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No you just cannot speak proper English, and thus do not make an iota of sense. Since your lack of communications skills frequently results in you not making any sense. I'm resulted in confusion because as stated earlier in this paragraph, you do not explain yourself with complete ideas. Instead you go off into "la la" land consistently, where you start thinking out loud mid sentence without any basis or context to what you are talking about. It has nothing to do with poor math skills, it has to do with your inability to explain any idea straightforward.

Now that you explain yourself, the scores of a 660 SLI are probably a bit better than GTX 680 since the 780 is a bit better than the 680 and of course the 660 SLI is slightly better than the 780.

You have no interest in "bickering" because you have been disproved multiple times, consecutively with every single response you have made thus far. You continue to talk in the background about me because you are just that delusional as stated multiple times.

Back to start again. 660's flashed and overclocked = slightly faster than 770 overclocked. Not 780. Why? Because flash that 780 and overclock it and it makes the 660's non-existent. As already stated in the last post that you refused to reply to you because your ignorance overwhelms your insane amount of arrogance.

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Even with the Bios Flash and overclocking, don't expect anything that DzillaXx is suggesting. He's so far off base from the truth of the results you are going to get it is not even funny. The cards will be more than capable, and they will do a very decent job don't get me wrong. Except like stated you are probably going to be in the 11,500-12,500 3DMark11 Performance range. More than that is very unlikely.

First off No One wants to respond to a rude comment, especially when that person has done nothing to show what he is talking about. Posting benchmarks that are nearly 6 months apart isn't helping. Kepler and Fermi aren't that different, driver updates especially SLI have been pretty noticeable. Even over the last 6 months, maybe not so much in 3dmark11 but sleeping dog yes.

Like I said in my one response:
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If you look at the 3dmark11 photos you posed you will notice that if you take the difference between the 660sli and gtx680 and compare it to the second photo that has the 770 and 780 you will notice it comes out to 11618P.

While the Math may not be perfect representation, it will still be pretty close. And with driver improvements they probably would be better. Now this is with the 3dmark11 screenshots you posted.

Like I said take the difference between the gtx680 and the gtx660 sli in the older test (11043-9458=1585)
So Now go to the newer test that includes the gtx780 and gtx770, that shows the gtx680 score jump nearly 600 points. Add the difference that the gtx660 sli had before and you got your educated guess (10033+1585=11618). As you can see I didn't pull that number out of my ass.

A GTX780 is about 5% slower then a Titan and about 30% faster then a GTX770. So not a small bump from the gtx770.

OP doesn't need to flash his card, even though it is dead easy. Flashed many cards in my life, only time I messed up was with a 4870 and it was easy to flash back with the windows ati flash software and VNC. But only because the bios I flashed simply didn't work with that card. If his card is able to get voltage gains from a bios flash, all he needs to do is take his bios and edit it. Not risk a Bios that might not even work for his cards.

Even with stock bios getting a 1200-1250mhz overclock shouldn't be that hard for those cards, though going past 1250 is all luck.


Stay Puft who posted not to long ago has gtx660's in SLI. If you want benchmarks ask him, he would probably be more then happy to prove a point.

I have no ignorance, I know video cards and what they can do. A GTX770 is simply not faster then gtx660's in SLI. This is fact, now stop beating that dead horse.
Personally you even doubted the power of some good old GTX470's, something that is clearly slower then two gtx660's. And you call me the delusional one.

Now if your going to reply try to keep it somewhat civil. joking and stabs are one thing, but you are taking it a little too far.
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Do the SLI 660s flashed and overclocked even come close to a stock 770s performance @ 1600x1200 gaming?
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Do the SLI 660s flashed and overclocked even come close to a stock 770s performance @ 1600x1200 gaming?

@ 1600x1200 stock GTX660 SLI is like a stock GTX780. Now if it was 1440p it would be a different story.

Stay Puft has dual 660's probably would be the better to ask him to post some benchmarks. As he has two of them, probably overclocked in some way, would shine more light into what they can do while pushed.


Though that rez isn't going to be that bad on the Bus, and you still have 2gb of v-ram what should be fine. Even at 1080p you would be fine. Though 2GB will probably get pretty cramped over the next few years. But why sell your 2gb cards just to get a single card that is also stuck to using 2gb while also being slower. From a power/heat output standpoint I could see why someone might not want two cards, but 660's don't get that hot or suck that much juice. Personally they would make a pretty decent SLI setup.
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