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Originally Posted by james8 View Post

This is why I'm not using Android tongue.gif
unfortunately that leave a majority of smartphone OEMs out and some of them have such beautiful devices

So, this one infection is the reason you never used android? Must be pretty awesome to see into the future like that.
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Actually wouldn't Java be on the same level as a webbrowser like Chrome, FF, IE? In that the infection comes not from an exploit in any flaws in the main OS...but abuses the permissions given to the Java Machine or web browser? I'm sure they did more than just target the Java stack in this case as otherwise this shouldn't be a big deal (right?) but a safe computer is one that the admin has complete knowledge of and control of the source code of everything running on the machine with explicit permissions having to be given at every step. SO yeah...nothing reasonable. biggrin.gif

Yup! I think we're saying the same thing in two different ways.

My point wasn't that the OS was flawed, I was trying to imply that the applications with the largest user bases are the ones most worth attacking/researching flaws, and that Java is a pretty big target. The JVM supplied by Oracle is updated rather frequently (not often enough, in some people's eyes), and thanks to that it's actually rather secure. Sure, every once-in-a-while a flaw is found and exploited, but that's true for just about anything.

The big problem Android faces is that the Dalvik JVM is only updated when a new version of Android is released. This means patching security holes on older phones will be more challenging, if not impossible, without an upgrade. Hopefully they find a way of addressing this in the future, but considering that almost everything on Android runs in a JVM, it might be difficult to do with something as simple as a Google Play store update.
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New Android trojan nearly impossible to remove

Ouch, that would actually be pretty painful.
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Boot into Custom Recovery format/wipedata factory reset voila , Malware gone
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Boot into Custom Recovery format/wipedata factory reset voila , Malware gone
Maybe, unless its hiding in the recovery partition. More powerful tools like APX (NVFLASH), SPF, ODIN, ect will probably take care of it.
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Boot into Custom Recovery format/wipedata factory reset voila , Malware gone

Not quite. Unless you do some low level formatting and make sure to fill the drive several times with empty data, then most data will stay on the drive marked as being able to get overwritten.
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Originally Posted by thegreatsquare View Post

One more reason I still use a stupid-phone.

That's like replying to a story about the bird flu with, "One more reason I don't go outside." While they don't specify the most common way to become infected, the odds of you getting this virus are pretty much none if you use Play and perhaps Amazon market.

It's possible that you'll crash into a ball of flames if you drive or fly anywhere. Do you stick to walking everywhere?

Possible != likely. If you let irrational fear determine what you do in life, you end up doing nothing at all.
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Originally Posted by Kaldari View Post

That's like replying to a story about the bird flu with, "One more reason I don't go outside." While they don't specify the most common way to become infected, the odds of you getting this virus are pretty much none if you use Play and perhaps Amazon market.

It's possible that you'll crash into a ball of flames if you drive or fly anywhere. Do you stick to walking everywhere?

Possible != likely. If you let irrational fear determine what you do in life, you end up doing nothing at all.

Or use Facebook, or browse the web, or well yeah, stuff a lot of people do on a daily basis.
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when they catch these sods that do all this it should be a compulsory 15 yr jail sentence - wont stop it but will scare many others biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by KBcobra View Post

Maybe, unless its hiding in the recovery partition. More powerful tools like APX (NVFLASH), SPF, ODIN, ect will probably take care of it.

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Not quite. Unless you do some low level formatting and make sure to fill the drive several times with empty data, then most data will stay on the drive marked as being able to get overwritten.

well jtag would fix it
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