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My GTX 570 is starting to show its age. I bought the card when they first came out, and back then nothing could slow it down. I was very impressed. However, nowadays, its not quite the same. I'd like to take some of the load off by getting a dedicated physx card but I don't know which one to get. What is the least expensive card that should be used for this task? How about the most expensive card that should be used for this task? I'm sure the titan would probably be overkill just for a dedicated physics card. Which one is the most budget friendly? Also, does a physx card have more of a... lifespan than a graphics card?
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What games are you playing that actually require physics? I wouldn't suggest to purchase one. Usually, the Nvidia driver suite offloads to your CPU. I think that this is not a case of your 570 getting beat up, but your C2D bottle-necking it.
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Physx isn't actually used in most games and that 570 should be doing just fine. As 0CALEFAXCTION0 stated, the part that is slowing you down the most is your C2D. Alot of games are starting to utilize more than 2 cores.

What resolution do you game at? What sort of FPS are you seeing currently? Does your GPU see ~90% usage in games or is it closer to ~50%? What does your CPU usage look like while gaming?
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Yeah I thought I might be able to help out the lowly C2D processor since physx tends to get offloaded to the CPU. I play borderlands 2, Metro Last light, Crysis 3 right now. All have good physx capabilites and I have to turn them off to keep my computer from slowing down, or sometimes even locking up. I was thinking maybe there might be an inexpensive card that's good at physx right now. Can't really afford $700 worth of processor, RAM, and motherboard upgrades at the moment.

I play at 1920x1080, with most stuff on max. Only thing I turn off is motion blur, depth of field, and bloom. Cause they get on my nerves. Every once in a while the system will choke up and the framerate will drop but its not real often. And I can feel a lot of heat coming out of the back of the 570. Its like a little space heater. I've heard tell that when people add a physx card, their temps go way down.
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My GTX 570 is starting to show its age. I bought the card when they first came out, and back then nothing could slow it down. I was very impressed. However, nowadays, its not quite the same. I'd like to take some of the load off by getting a dedicated physx card but I don't know which one to get. What is the least expensive card that should be used for this task? How about the most expensive card that should be used for this task? I'm sure the titan would probably be overkill just for a dedicated physics card. Which one is the most budget friendly? Also, does a physx card have more of a... lifespan than a graphics card?

You could upgrade to a current card and then use the 570 as a physx card. A 770 would be a great upgrade, just saying.
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Yeah I thought I might be able to help out the lowly C2D processor since physx tends to get offloaded to the CPU. I play borderlands 2, Metro Last light, Crysis 3 right now. All have good physx capabilites and I have to turn them off to keep my computer from slowing down, or sometimes even locking up. I was thinking maybe there might be an inexpensive card that's good at physx right now. Can't really afford $700 worth of processor, RAM, and motherboard upgrades at the moment.

I play at 1920x1080, with most stuff on max. Only thing I turn off is motion blur, depth of field, and bloom. Cause they get on my nerves. Every once in a while the system will choke up and the framerate will drop but its not real often. And I can feel a lot of heat coming out of the back of the 570. Its like a little space heater. I've heard tell that when people add a physx card, their temps go way down.

A GTS 650/ GTX 650Ti/ GTX 650Ti BOOST is the best bang for buck IIRC. But a GTS 450 would do pretty good also. Heck if you wanted, get a GTX 770 for $350 and put the 570 as a PhysX card, it would be insane the FPS gains you would get. Plus you need to get a Quad Core CPU also. I would recommend a Q6600 or Q9650 for $40-$100 and OC to 3.6+ and WIN!
 
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If I could find a Q-9650 that cheap I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Know anyone selling one for that price?

I have been looking at the Q8400 processor. Its a quad, and its got the same 6Mb of cache that my C2D e8400 has. According to the newegg reviews on the Q8400, 3.4Ghz is doable on all of the chips out there. But there have been some people who could take it to 3.6Ghz. Would that processor be a worthy upgrade? Right now I'm running my C2D processor at 3.8Ghz cause I was having stability issues at 4.0 as well as heat issues due to the power it took to get it there.

I only have somewhere in the area of $50-$70 for a processor upgrade right now. It looks like the only benefits of the Q9xxx series over the Q8xxx series is cache size, (which is more of an encoding thing than a gaming thing IIRC) and overclockability. Thoughts?
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If I could find a Q-9650 that cheap I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Know anyone selling one for that price?

I have been looking at the Q8400 processor. Its a quad, and its got the same 6Mb of cache that my C2D e8400 has. According to the newegg reviews on the Q8400, 3.4Ghz is doable on all of the chips out there. But there have been some people who could take it to 3.6Ghz. Would that processor be a worthy upgrade? Right now I'm running my C2D processor at 3.8Ghz cause I was having stability issues at 4.0 as well as heat issues due to the power it took to get it there.

I only have somewhere in the area of $50-$70 for a processor upgrade right now. It looks like the only benefits of the Q9xxx series over the Q8xxx series is cache size, (which is more of an encoding thing than a gaming thing IIRC) and overclockability. Thoughts?

Well eBay is your friend when it comes to CPU's or on here if anyone is selling theirs. I would skip the Q8xxx series, you would have to beat that Mobo to death to get them to OC. I would go Q6600 or Q9550/Q9650. The Q6600 if you get a Low VID chip, should do 4Ghz on some good Higher end Cooler. The Q9xxx has higher OCablty and better Revisions and Cache, but cost twice as much.

If you want to jump all the way to Max 775. Go Q9550/Q9650. But if you want a Good Bang to Buck upgrade, grab a Q6600 for like $40 and shoot me a PM on the Specs of it and i will guide you from their wink.gif I got a lot of XP on 775. smile.gif

Bottom line is with your budget, go Q6600 or if you can find a Q6700 for the same price, then that. Get a better cooler (Your rig don't say what you got) and let me know. thumb.gif
 
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Sorry I got the Thermalright ultra 120 extreme cooler. That one that used to be the king of air cooling back in the 775 days. As for the q6600, wouldn't that be an upgrade, but also a downgrade from my e8400? I'd be gaining cores, but losing some speed due to the larger manufacturing process and slightly less overclockability. If I recall correctly, that is.
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You dont really need a high end card for physics. If I wear you I would search craigslist and get whats you can find. A 9800gt or higher should do the trick.
Keep in mind you can all ways sell parts and buy new ones.
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