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The only things that matter for a PhysX card are:
- Number of CUDA Cores
- Clockspeed
- GPU Architecture

Fermi is the best architecture for PhysX. You want around 1/3rd to 1/2 as many CUDA Cores as your primary GPU. The faster you can get the core speed, the better, with memory clocks not being of much importance at all (but don't use a card with anything less than GDDR3).

Best bang for your buck will likely be the GTS450, GTX550Ti, GTX560Ti (448cores if you can get a good price), and the GTX650Ti.

Anything above that and you are better off gettinga ssecond 570 for SLI. I know that, at least at the one near me, Micro Center has some 570s for around $160 which is a great price, and will give you far more performance than a dedicated PhysX card. In fact, I would recommend getting a second 570 before even considering a PhysX card, as I see much better results with SLI+PhysX than single card + PhysX, especially in BL2.

I am not well versed on LGA775, as I still need a good motherboard for the E8600 I have sitting here, but I would recommend moving to a quad core even if you have to decrease clockspeed. The newer games almost entirely benefit from the extra threads, and multiple GPU's certainly do. I don't know if you have the budget, but even getting a decent LGA1366 setup from the OCN market would be a huge step up. Something like an i7 920 to 950 with a decent motherboard and 3x2GB DDR3-1600 to 2200 can be had for around $200-230 if you are patient, and while not the newest or fastest stuff available, it'll still be a very significant upgrade that will be a perfect match for a pair of 570s. You get the benefit of not only two more cores, but also hyperthreading, higher attainable clock speeds, and a superior platform, not to mention a huge increase in memory bandwidth. Basically, you completely eliminate the CPU as any real bottleneck.
   
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Sorry I got the Thermalright ultra 120 extreme cooler. That one that used to be the king of air cooling back in the 775 days. As for the q6600, wouldn't that be an upgrade, but also a downgrade from my e8400? I'd be gaining cores, but losing some speed due to the larger manufacturing process and slightly less overclockability. If I recall correctly, that is.

Oh your Cooler is a Higher end one, so it can handle it. A Q6600 can do 3.6-4.0Ghz depending on your VID and how far you wanna push. It would be a good upgrade.

As far as the PhysX goes, a 570 is overkill. But if you get a GTX 770 and then PhysX the 570, that's perfect. A GTX 450/550/650 is a good PhysX cards and cheap.

Also, 2 570's in SLI would be better over all then the 570 alone and a PhysX.
 
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Oh your Cooler is a Higher end one, so it can handle it. A Q6600 can do 3.6-4.0Ghz depending on your VID and how far you wanna push. It would be a good upgrade.

As far as the PhysX goes, a 570 is overkill. But if you get a GTX 770 and then PhysX the 570, that's perfect. A GTX 450/550/650 is a good PhysX cards and cheap.

Also, 2 570's in SLI would be better over all then the 570 alone and a PhysX.


Thanks everyone for all the helpful replies. This thread has been a small free education. But I would like to ask you pimp, what exactly does the VID mean? Does that have to do with the power phase of the mobo, and thus its ability to overclock a CPU?


As for upgrading platforms, at this time, its not really in my budget. I'm redoing the inside of a new house I just bought and that's pretty much taking up all my money. So I think I'll just be upgrading the CPU and maybe getting a cheap phsyx card. I would love to do as Neleksan suggested but its about $200 more than I can afford at this point. I can afford a $50 quad core, and a $70 phsx card.
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Thanks everyone for all the helpful replies. This thread has been a small free education. But I would like to ask you pimp, what exactly does the VID mean? Does that have to do with the power phase of the mobo, and thus its ability to overclock a CPU?


As for upgrading platforms, at this time, its not really in my budget. I'm redoing the inside of a new house I just bought and that's pretty much taking up all my money. So I think I'll just be upgrading the CPU and maybe getting a cheap phsyx card. I would love to do as Neleksan suggested but its about $200 more than I can afford at this point. I can afford a $50 quad core, and a $70 phsx card.

you say you do nto have the money to buy a new platform.... i disagree with you..

the money you wanted to spend on a dedicated phisyix card use tha money and the money you get from the sale of you current mobo cpu and ram and get your self a new setup that is better... even if it is a amd quad core setup.... it is still better than the dual core you have.
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Hey guys i was reading your posts....i also own a GTX570 and while playing MetroLL for example i used Physx in game and my fps dropped while on battle at 7.
Whan i turned Physx on via GPU in the nvidia settings i was 10 times more.
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Oh your Cooler is a Higher end one, so it can handle it. A Q6600 can do 3.6-4.0Ghz depending on your VID and how far you wanna push. It would be a good upgrade.

As far as the PhysX goes, a 570 is overkill. But if you get a GTX 770 and then PhysX the 570, that's perfect. A GTX 450/550/650 is a good PhysX cards and cheap.

Also, 2 570's in SLI would be better over all then the 570 alone and a PhysX.


Thanks everyone for all the helpful replies. This thread has been a small free education. But I would like to ask you pimp, what exactly does the VID mean? Does that have to do with the power phase of the mobo, and thus its ability to overclock a CPU?


As for upgrading platforms, at this time, its not really in my budget. I'm redoing the inside of a new house I just bought and that's pretty much taking up all my money. So I think I'll just be upgrading the CPU and maybe getting a cheap phsyx card. I would love to do as Neleksan suggested but its about $200 more than I can afford at this point. I can afford a $50 quad core, and a $70 phsx card.

VID, i don't recall the exact definition. But it's essentially the Vcore the CPU needs to Start-Up as set by Intel/AMD. The lower the VID is on a CPU, the Higher you can OC without going to far, usually. Q6600's i have seen as high as 1.35V and as low as 1.1V VID. The 1.1V would hit 4Ghz better then the 1.35V one would. So be sure to shoot me a PM when you get the New CPU smile.gifthumb.gif

Just at least get a Q6600-Q9650 and a 8800Ultra to a GTX 650Ti BOOST. I would get a GTS 450 SC for $30-$50 and put that as a PhysX card and be happy smile.gif
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