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Quite dissappointing, i wanted new games and most everything they announced is coming out in 2014!!, they do know is June 2013 right? doh.gif

Yeah, i really, REALLY wanted them to give me a reason to buy a Wii U but alas there was nothing there to make me go out and buy one, might aswell wait until next year now, a new F-Zero game would be awesome, a man can dream biggrin.gif
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Sorry, but that's rubbish, don't make silly assumptions about people in the first place.
I do not care for the Kinect, to me personally it provides ZERO use, i don't care if it's more powerful than a hundred NASA computers put together or if it's so powerful that it needs to be powered by a black hole in a galaxy far away, i simply have no need for it, to some it will be of use, to me it means nothing.
Are you even looking at your own drivel here? I said I prefer Sony's lineup, i never bought anyone else into it, your the one going around trying to convince people the X1 will sell well yada yada, your not Steve Ballmer in disguise are you?? biggrin.gif

Thus proving you can't think out of the box.

You might not like it but others will.

I like the PS4 line up as well, and plan on getting a PS4 myself. Stated it many times before. I know what sony is offering and what to expect. I also like new things, having a xbox one with a Kinect is one of them. Really you still have not explained why you hate it other then spying reasons(or other toll lines), i'm really not sure if you are just trying to be another troll or really believe that crap. You almost sound like those people on fox that try and make GW Bush look like a better president, even though they really are nothing more then misinformed people.


Regardless Day one when people go to the store to buy these things, of the games show has shown most are coming 2014 after release. MS has a nice list of Day one Launch games. Kinect will allow MS to target a wider range or gamers. If gamers have nothing but faith of better games to come then the PS4 might have the same rocky start as the PS3.

Personally KH3 and FF are the two games i'm looking forward the most from sony during the first wave of games. But I got more on the One side I would rather play more, most 3rd party games will be played on the PC.


Still I'm not arrogant to write off what MS is doing. Kinect can do some amazing things if needed, Things you might not want but other probably do. Smart Glass is more connectivity features. The Cloud will make going from one console to another easier. Whether you like it or not, xbox one will still have some pretty nifty features. To some PC gamers it might not be much, but to someone that uses it as a main gaming rig the ability to jump on the web in a flash and look up something and talk to other is nice. I use the built in web browser all the time on steam overlay.

We get it you don't like the Xbox One. But at some point we need to evolve, can't be using disc and clunky interfaces forever. Even sony could do some good things with the Eye toy if they invested money into it. Would do nothing but good for them, and wouldn't put them so far behind MS in that aspect.
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Thus proving you can't think out of the box.

You might not like it but others will.

rolleyes.gif

Clearly stated others would like it, but that to me it was of no use, put your reading glasses on buddy.

I stopped reading there anyway, done wasting my time thumb.gif
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So then we can finally confirm that Steam is all about the money and not a "gift" to gamers rolleyes.gif Took long enough tongue.gif

(inb4 "yeah, but I sold out to my so-called morals for cheap games" yada yada yada)

What was the point of your first sentence though?

You seem to be asserting that you can't share experiences with friends with an xbox one?

Is your assertion was that console gaming is about sharing physical discs with your friends? Because other than that, I highly doubt most people will no longer be able to "share experiences" with their friends like they used to.

Yep, Steam/Origin is all about money too. I don't like their DRM practices either. The Xbone is more of an invasion of privacy, a level above DRM.
As for sharing discs, yep that's how I did it since the Atari. My friend wanted to borrow a game, I gave him my copy. Sony gave a great example of that yesterday.

My friend shouldn't have to play the game at my house to try it out. They have their own console to play it at their house.
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Thus proving you can't think out of the box.

You might not like it but others will.

I like the PS4 line up as well, and plan on getting a PS4 myself. Stated it many times before. I know what sony is offering and what to expect. I also like new things, having a xbox one with a Kinect is one of them. Really you still have not explained why you hate it other then spying reasons(or other toll lines), i'm really not sure if you are just trying to be another troll or really believe that crap. You almost sound like those people on fox that try and make GW Bush look like a better president, even though they really are nothing more then misinformed people.


Regardless Day one when people go to the store to buy these things, of the games show has shown most are coming 2014 after release. MS has a nice list of Day one Launch games. Kinect will allow MS to target a wider range or gamers. If gamers have nothing but faith of better games to come then the PS4 might have the same rocky start as the PS3.

Personally KH3 and FF are the two games i'm looking forward the most from sony during the first wave of games. But I got more on the One side I would rather play more, most 3rd party games will be played on the PC.


Still I'm not arrogant to write off what MS is doing. Kinect can do some amazing things if needed, Things you might not want but other probably do. Smart Glass is more connectivity features. The Cloud will make going from one console to another easier. Whether you like it or not, xbox one will still have some pretty nifty features. To some PC gamers it might not be much, but to someone that uses it as a main gaming rig the ability to jump on the web in a flash and look up something and talk to other is nice. I use the built in web browser all the time on steam overlay.

We get it you don't like the Xbox One. But at some point we need to evolve, can't be using disc and clunky interfaces forever. Even sony could do some good things with the Eye toy if they invested money into it. Would do nothing but good for them, and wouldn't put them so far behind MS in that aspect.


I'm not going to debate you in the Xbox One vs PS4. But there is a serious reason why the whole Kinect part is such a big reason for people going with the PS4. And it has nothing to do with snooping.

Most people are going to choose one of the three consoles out, Xbox1/PS4/WiiU.

The problem is that the Kinect costs money to make. That adds onto the entry price of the Xbox One to a considerable amount. Thing is, the general consumer is going to have very little to no use for the Kinect. So that is around $60-100 wasted. If the price of the entire system was lower and you bought the Kinect as an optional accessory, that would make the Xbox One a more enticing deal. People who want it could get it, and people who don't want it could save some money.

Not having that option is a HUGE mistake.

And then again, the PS4 is a considerably more powerful system with (in my personal opinion, may not be yours) better exclusives, and a cheaper cost of the lifetime. It really is a no-brainer choice unless you absolutely must have those Xbox One exclusives.

Heck, with the $100 saved over the Xbox One, I can nearly get two games on launch for the same price as the Xbox One which won't have games.

And if I want to not play multiplayer, I don't have to pay a single subscription service on the PS4. That's a far cry from the required Xbox Live subscription required to really even access your console.
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rolleyes.gif

Clearly stated others would like it, but that to me it was of no use, put your reading glasses on buddy.

I stopped reading there anyway, done wasting my time thumb.gif

This is coming from the guy calling people fanboys for giving heads up about what a console can do....

Looking at your rep/post ratio no wonder nobody takes you seriously.
Why don't you go post Xbone everywhere else like all the other trolls.

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I'm not going to debate you in the Xbox One vs PS4. But there is a serious reason why the whole Kinect part is such a big reason for people going with the PS4. And it has nothing to do with snooping.

Most people are going to choose one of the three consoles out, Xbox1/PS4/WiiU.

The problem is that the Kinect costs money to make. That adds onto the entry price of the Xbox One to a considerable amount. Thing is, the general consumer is going to have very little to no use for the Kinect. So that is around $60-100 wasted. If the price of the entire system was lower and you bought the Kinect as an optional accessory, that would make the Xbox One a more enticing deal. People who want it could get it, and people who don't want it could save some money.

Not having that option is a HUGE mistake.

And then again, the PS4 is a considerably more powerful system with (in my personal opinion, may not be yours) better exclusives, and a cheaper cost of the lifetime. It really is a no-brainer choice unless you absolutely must have those Xbox One exclusives.

Heck, with the $100 saved over the Xbox One, I can nearly get two games on launch for the same price as the Xbox One which won't have games.

And if I want to not play multiplayer, I don't have to pay a single subscription service on the PS4. That's a far cry from the required Xbox Live subscription required to really even access your console.

While you have a good point let me point this out.

Not having it would give dev's less of a incentive to use it. If everyone already has one then you can program functions to it that people are more likely to use.

The argument could go ether way.


I say having it mandatory would streamline kinect software more. More people would use it and MS would more willing to add cool things for it to do.

Think about rocking you body back and forth during a boxing games to block and dodge while still using the controller for punching. Same could go for FPS games.
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I am going off retail price, not discounted prices. Sure. My friend just both both Batman Arkham games off steam for less than 10 bucks. You can't argue from a standpoint of simply because it's on sale. The standard XBL gold account straight from Microsoft is 60/yr, as I showed. That is ten dollars more than the PSN+ account DIRECTLY from sony. Hence, SONY IS CHEAPER.

Do you buy your vehicles at MSRP or do you shop for the best prices? I don't know a single person that pays $60/year for XBL, I would also assume that PS3 users with PS+ shop for deals instead of paying the $50 (if there are sales on it). I am not arguing that XBL is cheaper, I am arguing that XBL is not more expensive than PS+ if you are not an idiot and shop around like a normal human being.
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This is coming from the guy calling people fanboys for giving heads up about what a console can do....

All you do is defend Microsoft and their anti-consumer measures, when someone opposes it, you twist their words and accuse them of defending Sony, maybe you should apply for a job with Microsoft, unless you already work for them. wink.gif
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Do you buy your vehicles at MSRP or do you shop for the best prices? I don't know a single person that pays $60/year for XBL, I would also assume that PS3 users with PS+ shop for deals instead of paying the $50 (if there are sales on it). I am not arguing that XBL is cheaper, I am arguing that XBL is not more expensive than PS+ if you are not an idiot and shop around like a normal human being.

Do you buy your games at MSRP or your console at MSRP? Someone has to. Someone has to buy the game/console/car for you to be able to buy it at a used price later on.
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All you do is defend Microsoft and their anti-consumer measures, when someone opposes it, you twist their words and accuse them of defending Sony, maybe you should apply for a job with Microsoft, unless you already work for them. wink.gif

*God this is so off topic but whatever*

I have done nothing but list examples, you still have a option of your own. But trashing on the Xbox One and calling the few people that defend it, for what it is, blatant fanboys is appalling.
How is the One's DRM interfering with your life? Pop the disc in and play.
Wanna sell it, you can. MS isn't taking that from you.
Lending a game shouldn't be anything more then lending him the disc.
I don't get it, what is so special about the PS4? Please tell me, as no one has answered yet.
Other then the games I see no reason, but so far MS has shown a pretty decent line up as well. We need more new IP's not more sequels IMO.
OCN was already a pretty dominance in PS3 owners, so most of you liking the PS4 was obvious.


Please Tell me how Microsoft is any more anti-consumer then sony or apple or google or anyone else?
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