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We might well as well be concerned about people pouring beer into the top or racing the case down hills. If anything happens to the chips from the vents being blocked (unlikely: self-throttling), the owner is welcome to learn not to do it again.

Except here's the difference, people don't drink beer in an IT oriented workplace, and i've had this problem happen with people several times before (Stickers etc). Plus i'm pretty certain that more people understand not to combine liquids with electronics than people who understand heat dispersion in a specific computer.
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ah custom GPU boards.....

I have to say this is something special.......this is the first time I have thought ' I would love to have that" when it has come to anything apple....
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But can it....... biggrin.gif
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I am pretty impressed this time. Apple has baked planned obsolescence into a new product very well this time, all in the name of "taking up less space" and "thermal coars!!" They basically went to a somewhat standard platform to one that's a bunch of proprietary boards.

At least you can change the RAM on your new multi-thousand USD rig.
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Only 1P? I would be disappointed if I was interested in one. Mac Pros have always been 2P. All you're getting if you upgrade from an older 2P system is the higher IPC of Ivy Bridge, and I'm sure at least a part of that is negated due to what I presume are lower clock speeds.

GPUs are nice.

PCI-E SSD is really nice, though probably really expensive.

The design is kind of nice and definitely interesting, though it clearly throws upgradeability out the window.

What irritates me is the specs they decided to give out. "12 core Xeon"... ok, could've been more clear. "Dual AMD workstation GPUs with 528GB/s memory bandwidth"... out of all the information they could've given about the GPUs, they decide to give us the memory bandwidth?? I mean, sure, there's only one AMD workstation GPU with 264GB/s memory bandwidth (W9000, basically a 7970 but with the fancy workstation drivers that are supposedly worth around $3000), but come on... couldn't they have said something like 8TFLOPs, or anything actually indicative of the performance class of the part? "PCIe flash"... clear enough, though I hate how they use "flash" as a buzzword instead of simply calling it NAND or an SSD. "1866MHz DDR3"... I was laughing until I realized it has ECC and therefore that speed is actually pretty good, though I'm not sure how much it matters, especially since they didn't give timings (could very well be CAS 10+, in which case 1600MHz CL <9 would be similar or hell even better).


You've probably never worked in the enterprise space before have you? The current fastest ECC REG dimms are capping out at 1600. Current IMC's are also limited at 1600 8GB ECC-REG C11.

1866mhz DDR3 ECC REG will most likely be C11 as well, not sure if JEDEC already released the proper specs for these yet. ECC REG is critical in the enterprise space to prevent bit flipping as well as adding RAS features ( such as mirroring ) that are necessary for mission critical projects unlike the consumer market.
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whats the point of a cylindrical shape other than looks? i can't imagine everything exhausting out the top being very efficient.
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1. That thing looks like it's Darth Vaders helmet or something
2. Holy **** the thermal design must be crazy. Giant copper heat-sink in the middle that spans the whole height of the thing and is in contact with both GPUs and CPU?

I'm sold, if I had $5000 to spare...

Srsly they're making a lot of compromises, it is true that they're completely neglecting the users who would want to upgrade in the future. But it looks like RAM may be upgradable, so one is loosing the ability to upgrade the GPUs and maybe Air Port cards? If they pull it off, it might work for the whole thunderbolt expansion thing, to add in expansion cards and storage... I'm sure many pro users will appreciate the "aesthetic" design, the (quieter?) operation and reduced footprint.
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"Made in USA"... So is my computer. And pretty much everyone's on this forum that lives in the country. I assembled them china parts right here in America.
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Looks like carbage bin, but nice to see something different designs in desktop pc layouts
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Pretty beastly indeed. I wonder what the entry fee is on this build? $5500?
It's Apple.... 7k minimun lol, and yes people will pay for it regardless xD

For someone that will use all the power this has, it is quite nice. Yeah, you could do all this for a lot less, but when you are making many thousands of dollars a year, spending a bit excessively isn't out of the question. Same reason that people buy BMW and Mercedes versus a Ford Taurus.
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