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Looks like a trash can. Not a wise design choice imo.
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It looks ridiculous...

There's nothing appealing about a cylindrical/circular shape, and I almost feel like we're taking a step backwards:

File source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Imac_sunflower2.jpg

Circles just aren't good for spatial efficiency... Stack them side by side, and there'll be too much empty space. Against paper, staplers, pencils... nothing that you would have on your desktop lays flush with a circular device. A laptop, a smartphone, a tablet, they're all at home because they're all rectangular.

Have you ever seen a circular or ellipsoid PCB/motherboard?

No?

I'm pretty sure the entire computing industry didn't just "miss" that during its half-century long parade of innovation and testing.

I mean I like the idea of the unified thermal core and single fan, but I really don't see why it would've been so difficult to make it a more conventional shape.

And I love how they're benchmarking it against the former mac pro which, as I recall, was still using ATI 5770s (and still charging out the ass for them) when it was retired. It's not that high of a bar.
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I think it's an amazing step for our economy/manufacturing! You don't see many other big companies even assembling their products in the USA, which would definitely add a good amount of jobs. If I'm not mistaken, aren't most great CPUs, GPUs, etc. made in Taiwan? I think it's impossible right now to have a real "Made in the USA" machine. I definitely prefer "Most components made in free Taiwan and assembled in USA" than "Components made in free Taiwan and assembled in communist China"

I'm still a PC guy though, but I'd love it if I could find more components that were Made or Assembled in the US.
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At least made in the USA is a step forward if it's just final assembly. Better than nothing and a step in the right direction..
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Assembled in the USA...by robots made in Taiwan.
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Can we just drop the whole "well it's not really made in the USA" thing?
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Can we just drop the whole "well it's not really made in the USA" thing?

Yeah. Also, you have to think about what the professional really wants and what they really need. What they really need is something like this that you can literally chuck in a suitcase with a monitor or two and take it to the filming site to edit footage on the go. Everything is solid state, so there's no worrying about hard drive issues.

Also, the average professional does not constantly upgrade like we do. They buy an expensive machine, wait until it doesn't do what they need it to anymore, than buy another one. The upgrading thing is purely an enthusiast thing. If you think that your average producer or post production manager is going out to buy the latest FirePro and Xeon every 10 or even 20months, you clearly have no experience with professionals. They use their rigs into the ground, then they buy a new one. What they want is durability and spatial conservation.

I am a PC guy, though, to anyone who doubts me. I want to see a build log cutting windows in the side and filling the thing with mineral oil to reduce temps. smile.gif

In addition to that, with people who are saying that they aren't stackable, they take up too much extra space as circles, etc, first off, they're not meant to be servers. They're meant to be workstations. Second of all, there may also be a vent on the bottom, meaning they can be stacked and the fans will pull up air through the stack.

A 12-core Xeon and two FirePros is a lot of compute power. The Thunderbolt 2 ports have 20GBps theoretical throughput and I think that is enough for graphics cards if you need them, especially with the optical Thunderbolt demos we've been seeing lately.

This thing is a stunningly functional work of art that packs a workstation into the size of your compact Cuisinart countertop coffee maker. (the small kind) Quit trying to make it do stuff it's not meant to and instead admire and puzzle over how in the world they managed this.

Again, I believe people are overestimating the size. It is a cylinder with a base diameter of 6.6" and is only 9.9" tall. I don't know where Usario got his numbers, but the Newegg specs for the SG09 say it is roughly 9*11*13. Since it is a cylinder, we can say that it is roughly 6*6*9. (though less than that, that includes square corners) That is almost exactly half as wide or deep or tall as the SG09 is.
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Assembled in the USA...by robots made in Taiwan.

Sadly, this statement is probably 100% accurate.

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Sadly, this statement is probably 100% accurate.

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I'm not too excited about the Made in the US thing, I think you should have expected it considering Tim said awhile back they would refresh one of their product lines in the US. (ahem, which one hadn't been updated in awhile? ahem.)

They are doing it to bring back jobs here, even if the job is pulling the aluminum out of the machine and putting it on an assembly line then stacking the cards inside.
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I'm not too excited about the Made in the US thing, I think you should have expected it considering Tim said awhile back they would refresh one of their product lines in the US. (ahem, which one hadn't been updated in awhile? ahem.)

They are doing it to bring back jobs here, even if the job is pulling the aluminum out of the machine and putting it on an assembly line then stacking the cards inside.

I'm more inclined to believe they're doing it because apparently there are people who give a crap where about where it's "made", thus they can charge extra for that little label.
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This design is genius. It can almost cool via convection @ idle with almost no fan the way its designed. The reduction of hardware (fans, chassis, pcb etc) used to make the "hardware" functional is major leap forward in efficiency.

Simply brilliant.
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