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I'm trying to design a loop for a 4770K and a single GTX 780 in a Silverstone TJ11. Silverstone claims that I can fit a Black Ice SR 1 560mm radiator in bottom of the TJ11. Max TDP is 84W for the CPU, 250W for the GPU, so 334W total.

This review says the Black Ice gets around .040 C/W with ~600 RPM fans. 334W * .040 C/W gives me a 13.4°C ∆T.

So, do my calculations look correct? Would that single radiator be able to cool the CPU + GPU with only 600 rpm fans? This is my first loop so I'm a little worried about building the loop only to find that it can't keep the system cool. I'm aiming to keep the system as quiet as possible.

Thanks in advance!
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i cool a 2600k and 2 7970s with a rx360 and rx240 im sure the 560 will be plenty but you might have to delid the 4770k to get good temps. You might need to run the fans faster then 600rpms say a 1000 maybe to get the best temps.
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Thanks. Looks like I might also be able to fit an RX 240 in addition to the Black Ice 560. I suppose if the 600 rpm fans aren't cutting it I could try adding the 240. But maybe 6 fans at 600 rpm aren't any quieter than 4 at 1000 rpm.
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Thanks. Looks like I might also be able to fit an RX 240 in addition to the Black Ice 560. I suppose if the 600 rpm fans aren't cutting it I could try adding the 240. But maybe 6 fans at 600 rpm aren't any quieter than 4 at 1000 rpm.

will depend on fans probly my yate loons are even pretty quiet at 1000rpms at their 1800-2200rpms they are loud lol.
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I'm trying to design a loop for a 4770K and a single GTX 780 in a Silverstone TJ11. Silverstone claims that I can fit a Black Ice SR 1 560mm radiator in bottom of the TJ11. Max TDP is 84W for the CPU, 250W for the GPU, so 334W total.

This review says the Black Ice gets around .040 C/W with ~600 RPM fans. 334W * .040 C/W gives me a 13.4°C ∆T.

So, do my calculations look correct? Would that single radiator be able to cool the CPU + GPU with only 600 rpm fans? This is my first loop so I'm a little worried about building the loop only to find that it can't keep the system cool. I'm aiming to keep the system as quiet as possible.

Thanks in advance!


The general rule of watercooling is 1.120mm radspace per device, 1.120mm radspace per overclock, and 1.120mm radspace if you want quiet fans/wiggle room.

If you have a 560 rad you should be fine, if you have a 560 and a 240 you could used REALLY quiet fans. You'd be fine with 560 radspace easy, but if you add that 240 you could use quieter fans.

Also, if you want quiet fans do NOT get the Black Ice Stealth or Black Ice Xtreme. Those have a LOT of fins per inch, and require high static pressure (high RPM) fans.
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i would think a nice 360 would be more than enough..... but hey what do i know.thumb.gif
    
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i would think a nice 360 would be more than enough..... but hey what do i know.thumb.gif


It would be more than enough if he had one with moderate to high FPI with good static pressure fans, or a Monsta series rad with high flow fans, but he's already established he wants it to be really quiet so it's best to go overkill on the radspace with low FPI so he can use quiet fans. tongue.gif Plus, a 360 rad on a high end video card with a i7 cpu? That might be pushing it I would imagine, especially if he ever plans to throw on an overclock.
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The general rule of watercooling is 1.120mm radspace per device, 1.120mm radspace per overclock, and 1.120mm radspace if you want quiet fans/wiggle room.

If you have a 560 rad you should be fine, if you have a 560 and a 240 you could used REALLY quiet fans. You'd be fine with 560 radspace easy, but if you add that 240 you could use quieter fans.

Also, if you want quiet fans do NOT get the Black Ice Stealth or Black Ice Xtreme. Those have a LOT of fins per inch, and require high static pressure (high RPM) fans.

Hmm, what's your definition of really quiet fans? Do you think I would need a 560+240 to hit 600 rpm?

The SR1 product page on performance-pcs lists 9 FPI so I think I should be set there.

Alternatively I think I can fit an RX360 and an RX240. Perhaps that's the better route?
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Hmm, what's your definition of really quiet fans? Do you think I would need a 560+240 to hit 600 rpm?

The SR1 product page on performance-pcs lists 9 FPI so I think I should be set there.

Alternatively I think I can fit an RX360 and an RX240. Perhaps that's the better route?


RPM stands for Rotations Per minute, not noise. XD
The thing is, generally high static pressure fans will make more noise.
With 9fins per inch static pressure won't be much of an issue, so you can use quiet fans.

"Ultra quiet fans" are generally considered to be fans that have a noise rating of UNDER 20dBa, which interestingly enough is 20x higher than the human threshold of hearing tongue.gif

So... everyone's opinion of "quiet" fans is different.



SilenX makes some decently high flow ultra quiet fans.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=36_1130_49_1158

Then there's this one, if you can fit it in your case.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=36_1130_403&products_id=22925


Prolimatech makes some pretty wicked 140mm fans.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14514/fan-947/Prolimatech_Aluminum_Vortex_Series_140mm_x_25mm_CPU_Fan_-_Red_LED_1600RPM_127CFM.html
If you decide to throw that extra rad in there, if you can fit it, use a 280mm rad instead of a 240mm rad, and use these.
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RPM stands for Rotations Per minute, not noise. XD

Haha, yeah I know. I figured if they were spinning at only 600rpm they would probably be quiet enough. smile.gif

Looking into those fans you posted and also the 140mm fan review here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?263193-140mm-Fan-Testing-on-a-HWlabs-SR1-Radiator-Round-7

Still undecided on the fans and fan controllers but I think I'm set on the SR1 560.
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