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post #1 of 30
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I mean, they products are great, why the heck would they reduce the potential of their own products, adding such of bad IHS instead of the old fluxless solder of Sandy Bridge, I can understand they are wanting profits reducing cost but Ok they just should ask a higher price and mantain quality levels.

First when i saw this situation on Ivy Bridge, i though it was a mistake in the design of the chip and cannot be solve until new chip, but they did it again! My current oldy E8400 need to be upgrade, i skiped Sandy Bridge trusting on Ivy bridge, then waited for Haswell, and they bring this.
post #2 of 30
They have no true competition, without OC, that is. Therefore, they don't feel the need to go all out and make great, cool products, just tick tock.
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Originally Posted by FeuerInDerNacht View Post

They have no true competition, without OC, that is. Therefore, they don't feel the need to go all out and make great, cool products, just tick tock.
The Tick Tock seems to be also a lie, like Tick, Tick, Tick and never tock. Tock would be add a good quality of IHS to Haswell, that would be a great Tock. I would be glad to pay 400 - 450 for a Haswell with better IHS.
post #4 of 30
Not sure if trolling? http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/56?vs=836
Looks like a huge upgrade to me...
post #5 of 30
If you look from SB to IB to HS, then there is only a ~10% upgrade from one to the next step in line. So my mistake, tick tick tick.
post #6 of 30
Because they don't care about stooges operating the chips outside of it's design parameters.

My 4770 NON-K is way cooler then my old AMD setup, the air coming out of the case is cool now. Waaayyy more powerful then the AMD too.

So you see the IHS works absolutely fine, it does not need the flux-less solder.

It is really not that hard to understand, they are not going to put flux-less solder in hundreds of thousands or millions of chips because a few cheapskates or enthusiasts want to squeeze every last bit out.
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Its considered tick tock, but it in all honesty is tick tick tick tock this time around, they dont have competition simple and plain.
 
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Not sure if trolling? http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/56?vs=836
Looks like a huge upgrade to me...

He is definitely trolling. Especially because he doesn't know the exact reason why IB/Haswell actually runs hot. It has barely anything to do with the TIM used and more due to the spacing between the die and the IHS because of the way the IHS is mounted.

And to cap it off, even the old Sandy Bridge is a hell of an upgrade over what he has.

10/10, would fall for the troll again.
post #9 of 30
If feel your pain man, but at least for you the upgrade would be significant (coming from an E8400).

Hindsight is 20/20 and it seems upgrading during Sandy would have been the prime time to do so, but what can you do? Gotta roll with the punches.
I'm either going to hold out another year or just switch over to a Z77 setup now and bypass socket 1150 entirely.

EDIT:

Call me an optimist, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.
This doesn't wreak of trolling so much as being uninformed to me. If I'm wrong so be it, but don't call shenanigans until you're 100% positive.
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It would be a huge upgrade, but considering what he said about them, tick tick tick. In terms of only what he said, not what he has.
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