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post #11 of 30
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Originally Posted by FeuerInDerNacht View Post

If you look from SB to IB to HS, then there is only a ~10% upgrade from one to the next step in line. So my mistake, tick tick tick.
I know clock by clock Haswell > IVY > Sandy but hey if Flux Solder work so good on the past, they should just use it again on new proccessor instead going back. But i understand, this happen when there are not competition. Companys become lazzys.

And im not trolling,im just asking a question that you can see on many others members post, anyway, im tired of waiting, so i guess im buying this haswell hot as it is and not to overclock it too much, as i did with E8400 (5.2 Insanes Ghz)
Edited by Sujeto 1 - 6/10/13 at 7:59pm
post #12 of 30
I think Intel did fix the TIM to be less of an issue on later Ivy Bridge CPUs. I remember seeing a thread dedicated to people with 3570k / 3770k CPUs that were finding that they were having lower temps and lower voltage for overclocks on newer batch CPUs compared to older batches.

Here is mine with stock thermal paste and decent overclock. Way cooler than the early Ivy Bridge CPUs. Only 1 core went above 70C with 4.5Ghz overclock and DDR3-2400 memory.
post #13 of 30
When you know you've messed up, MOST people (INTEL) would go back and try to fix it lol.
post #14 of 30
Ivy could benefit up to 25c from a delid, but from what I have seen haswell only gets around 15c, still considerable though.
 
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I know clock by clock Haswell > IVY > Sandy but hey if Flux Solder work so good on the past, they should just use it again on new proccessor instead going back. But i understand, this happen when there are not competition. Companys become lazzys.

Ever notice how non Ivy and Haswell owners are always the ones complaining? Haswell is a fast chip at 4.6Ghz. Yeah its nice going higher but for what? Brownie points? E peen? I can bench at 4.8Ghz on the stock tim. Yeah temps flirt with 95C but it doesnt bother me. Chip can handle it.
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The issue isn't the TIM, it's more to do with the gap created by the adhesive. They still use solder, but only on 2011 chips it seems.

As for why they're not focusing, it's not just competition, but the market itself. Desktops aren't top priority anymore, it's mobile.
To top that off, the OC community is an even smaller percentage of that percentage...we're a tiny niche in the grand scheme of their business.
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I own an Ivy Bridge processor, and I know people that own Haswell processors. They complain. I complain occasionally.

If I pay for something that is overclockable, then I want maximum potential. I don't want 95C and the potential to be ruined.
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I own an Ivy Bridge processor, and I know people that own Haswell processors. They complain. I complain occasionally.

If I pay for something that is overclockable, then I want maximum potential. I don't want 95C and the potential to be ruined.
The tj max is 105c, there is nothing wrong with 95c, people just like babying their chips so they will last longer even though they upgrade way before their chips would die anyway.
 
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I could understand that.
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Yes, I would go take a sports car and push it to it's limit so it can mess up.... GENIUS -.-
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