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this comes to mind when reading the article

http://www.w3schools.com/downloadwww.htm
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Winston regrets not being able to turn off his new Xbox

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its not that i don't believe this yet, but im gonna have to see a few augmentations (preferably nanoaugmentations) before this starts to make sense to me.
post #114 of 246
Biggest problem I have with this:

how many terrorists are actually going to plan attacks & then jabber on their cellphone to their friends about it?
ring-ring "hey man, you going to the bombing next week? should be a killer event..."


just as someone else pointed out, these resources could be much better utilized in combating inner city violence
-- houston alone gets somwhere around ~250 murders every year (+700 in 1981!), and they aren't the highest city...
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we had the F117 in the late '70's if I recall correctly..

the SR 71 was sorta stealth and it dates from the mid '60's

F117 first flight was 1981 (so 37 years after the GO-229), the SR-71 was "stealth" because it flew at such an insane altitude and speed. It's RCS was still about 10square meters, which is kind of huge (and still detectable at the time).
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^They'll have CTS for that. A centralized computer system linked to a network of surveillance cameras to track EVERYTHING THAT MOVES in a city. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2003/jul/1/20030701-092343-5953r/?page=all If you thought your privacy was out the window now biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by doomlord52 View Post

F117 first flight was 1981 (so 37 years after the GO-229), the SR-71 was "stealth" because it flew at such an insane altitude and speed. It's RCS was still about 10square meters, which is kind of huge (and still detectable at the time).

Not for the time though. Comparing the characteristics of the SR-71 to the 117 would be like comparing the Me242's top speed to that of the SR71. They did quite a bit of work to minimize the rcs of the SR71, it was pretty advanced for its time, but there was a lot of progress made in those 20+ years between the two...

Maybe the top speeds is a bad analogy, but the point is that IMO you make a poor comparison.

::edit:: I'm not trying to stay that the SR71 was as stealthy in its time as the F117 was in its time. But to say that it was "stealthy" only because of its altitude and speed would be incorrect
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This.

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Also I think the OP source is wrong. There's NO WAY it's FIVE ZETTABYTES. That doesn't even make sense. I mean, the ENTIRE internet bandwidth between the US and EU is about 4.6tbp/s, according to those slides.... So 10^7 seconds of data... that's about 34.7 YEARS worth of the ENTIRE BANDWIDTH between the EU and US. That means every 1080p YouTube video you view - as the entire video file. Every website as the ENTIRE html thing, with pictures, flash, etc. ALL of the HD screenshots you upload, ALL the netflix you watch - they have multiple duplicate copies of ALL of that, for the next 35 years (at the current rate).

That... that is actually impossible. I don't even need to go into detail about how impossible that is.

It doesn't even make sense from a logical standpoint. Look at Psy's Gangnam style video. Lets say half of the views (so 500 million+) were from the EU connecting to US servers.. why would they need to keep FIVE HUNDRED MILLION COPIES OF GANGNAM STYLE?!

This is just like last year when stories about the "ARGUS-IS" spy drone came out, and people were claiming that by using 368-5mp cell phone cameras, they could zoom in from 7km altitude and see what phone you were using.... despite not having an analog zoom function. And that it produces "1 million terabytes of data per day" - which would mean an 11.6tb/s wireless connection.... a connection several times FASTER than the massive network of fiber CABLES used to connect the US and EU.


Basically, sensationalist junk again. Probably written by people who have no idea how tech works. Do some math before you write an article rolleyes.gif


/edit

Just noticed that the EU-US bandwidth is in TerraBITS while the storage is in ZettaBYTES. So multiple all that by 8. It's just more insane.

/edit

I'm bored and I haven't killed the OP article enough yet.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9209158/Scientists_calculate_total_data_stored_to_date_295_exabytes
So, in 2011, the ENTIRE amount of digital storage in EXISTANCE on THE ENTIRE PLANET was about 300 Exabytes.
This is FIVE ZETTABYTES.

That means that this ONE BUILDING in the US, that somehow cost only 1.2 Billion USD has about SIXTEEN TIMES more storage THAN ALL DIGITAL DEVICES IN THE WORLD.
ALL of the Giant google servers, intel servers, smart phones, HDDs, SSDs, ipods, cameras IN THE WORLD... ALL of those combined = 6% of this ONE building.


The only way this is even VAGUELY possible is if the US ACTUALLY HAS alien technology - not joke "haha it's so future-y it must be 'alien'" alien technology, I mean legitimate, "It came from an advanced space-faring civilization that VISITED EARTH" technology.



WHO WRITES THESE THINGS!?!?



(I'm kind of angry because whoever wrote this is dumb)


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What you aren't factoring in is all the volatile data that is created on a daily basis in this country.

Normally your phone call to your mother isn't recorded and stored, and thus doesn't take up data. We are talking hundreds of millions of phone calls a day, just in this country, that normally wouldn't be counted in the storage/used space of the entire internet.

Now start recording and keeping those very calls, and the data space it occupies, and your total numbers on data greatly change.

EDIT: Oh, and this center and the others being built aren't designed around today's needs, but those of the future.
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F117 first flight was 1981 (so 37 years after the GO-229), the SR-71 was "stealth" because it flew at such an insane altitude and speed. It's RCS was still about 10square meters, which is kind of huge (and still detectable at the time).

"The first operational aircraft designed around a stealthy shape and materials, the SR-71 had several features designed to reduce its radar signature. The SR-71 had a radar cross section (RCS) of around 10 square meters,[32] much greater than the later Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk, which had an RCS equivalent in size to a ball bearing"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird

Wiki calls it stealthy..
 
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The USA is now officially a police state. There is no other way to put it. If someone says something that sends red flags to whatever measures they are using to screen this information, then they would be able to dig up a mountain of evidence on you almost immediately. If Nazi Germany had modern day tech, they would do this too, and that is what scares me.

It might be possible for someone to say something in jest, or sarcasm that might get the attention of big brother. Then they dig up something on you completely unrelated and get themselves in a position where they have to justify their time tracking you by charging you with some form of criminal offense. From a law enforcement perspective they would think they would just be doing their job. But in my view its epic level tyranny.

Also the Utah datacenter isn't just for storage of information, they got the computing power there to brute force hack all but the most advanced encryption in a matter of minutes. If I had to guess, they're probably just playing catch up with China.

Al Qaeda! North Korea! China Hacking! Nuclear Weapons! Tampons!

There you go! now you are def on the watch list. thumb.gif No need to thank me.
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