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Originally Posted by doomlord52 View Post

This.

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Also I think the OP source is wrong. There's NO WAY it's FIVE ZETTABYTES. That doesn't even make sense. I mean, the ENTIRE internet bandwidth between the US and EU is about 4.6tbp/s, according to those slides.... So 10^7 seconds of data... that's about 34.7 YEARS worth of the ENTIRE BANDWIDTH between the EU and US. That means every 1080p YouTube video you view - as the entire video file. Every website as the ENTIRE html thing, with pictures, flash, etc. ALL of the HD screenshots you upload, ALL the netflix you watch - they have multiple duplicate copies of ALL of that, for the next 35 years (at the current rate).

That... that is actually impossible. I don't even need to go into detail about how impossible that is.

It doesn't even make sense from a logical standpoint. Look at Psy's Gangnam style video. Lets say half of the views (so 500 million+) were from the EU connecting to US servers.. why would they need to keep FIVE HUNDRED MILLION COPIES OF GANGNAM STYLE?!

This is just like last year when stories about the "ARGUS-IS" spy drone came out, and people were claiming that by using 368-5mp cell phone cameras, they could zoom in from 7km altitude and see what phone you were using.... despite not having an analog zoom function. And that it produces "1 million terabytes of data per day" - which would mean an 11.6tb/s wireless connection.... a connection several times FASTER than the massive network of fiber CABLES used to connect the US and EU.


Basically, sensationalist junk again. Probably written by people who have no idea how tech works. Do some math before you write an article rolleyes.gif


/edit

Just noticed that the EU-US bandwidth is in TerraBITS while the storage is in ZettaBYTES. So multiple all that by 8. It's just more insane.

/edit

I'm bored and I haven't killed the OP article enough yet.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9209158/Scientists_calculate_total_data_stored_to_date_295_exabytes
So, in 2011, the ENTIRE amount of digital storage in EXISTANCE on THE ENTIRE PLANET was about 300 Exabytes.
This is FIVE ZETTABYTES.

That means that this ONE BUILDING in the US, that somehow cost only 1.2 Billion USD has about SIXTEEN TIMES more storage THAN ALL DIGITAL DEVICES IN THE WORLD.
ALL of the Giant google servers, intel servers, smart phones, HDDs, SSDs, ipods, cameras IN THE WORLD... ALL of those combined = 6% of this ONE building.


The only way this is even VAGUELY possible is if the US ACTUALLY HAS alien technology - not joke "haha it's so future-y it must be 'alien'" alien technology, I mean legitimate, "It came from an advanced space-faring civilization that VISITED EARTH" technology.



WHO WRITES THESE THINGS!?!?



(I'm kind of angry because whoever wrote this is dumb)


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No doubt this snooping has produced some results, it's almost inconceivable that it couldn't.

However, this does nothing to excuse it. The cost, in every sense of the word, is too high. Even if there was a 9/11 scale attack every single day, I could not condone the actions of these departments because I honestly believe they do far more harm than even the worst of worst case scenarios they are trying to prevent.

The frightened, ignorant masses, and the governments they have allowed to remain in power, have caused more damage to themselves than any terrorist plot, or any foreign meddling, ever could.

I'd take a marginal reduction in the safety of myself and my loved ones for a massive increase in our freedom and privacy any day.
I have a huge problem with being required to foot the bill for my own oppression, while my government undermines national integrity, and provides largely illusory security in exchange.

I 100% agree on costs, but every thing is cost when it come to government spending - read our news over here in the UK - most of our MP's want shooting. Licensed to thieve.

And if all this intel can be gathered about on known perpetrators and yet to be UNKNOWN I don't have a problem. We all live in a environment that is not human friendlily anymore.

Crikey when I was a kid you could walk about safely at night. Now there seem to be more grown ups that want to offer you a bag sweets or a next door neighbor who is into bomb making and sad but true a lot these aren't find out till something happens.

Its all ways the do gooders that claim human rights - wait till it happens to one of their siblings etc and see if there is a change of heart.

Of coarse I would like to go my daily business feeling care free and knowing no none is digging in my backyard - but them days are gone since certain nations went and butted their noses in other countries welfare, oil the big do badder mad.gif
post #63 of 246
Internet says it doesn't always work out like that..... does any government follow it's own rules ?
Hugely centralised power is dangerous, dangerous, dangerous.
Got to go back to watching nazi documentaries now.
[edited cos I wasn't being nice]
Edited by dogbiscuit - 6/11/13 at 1:29pm
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no wonder HDD prices are so high. They have them all mad.gif

Makes me think.. you know, for the past I don't know how many years, HDD prices were through the roof, maybe that was a way for the manufacturers to fend off consumers in order to cater for those large accounts.. *wink* *wink* haha.
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What did they smoke? Do they really want to analyze everything? Control everything?

Yes.
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Well if they get another flood in Thailand they wont be able to make it lachen.gif
Edited by ladcrooks - 6/11/13 at 1:31pm
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Edit:
I just want to do this for giggles...

If they spent $1,200,000,000 on 5 ZB that is $240,000,000 per ZB
Or $234,275 per EB
Or $228.88 per PB
Or $0.22 per TB

You know, I don't even care what they are doing anymore. I just want to know where they are getting this deal at!

Assuming all of this is true, they are getting that deal from the sort of bulk discount you would get if you ordered 5,248,000 TB HDDs (assuming I worked out how many TB there are in 5 ZB) lol
    
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If they use Seagate's add on another expense for failure rates biggrin.gif

nite nite all - i have said enough in this thread thumb.gif
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why would they need to keep FIVE HUNDRED MILLION COPIES OF GANGNAM STYLE?!

Why wouldnt they??
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And if all this intel can be gathered about on known perpetrators and yet to be UNKNOWN

If it's gathered at all, it can and will be abused.
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Crikey when I was a kid you could walk about safely at night. Now there seem to be more grown ups that want to offer you a bag sweets or a next door neighbor who is into bomb making and sad but true a lot these aren't find out till something happens.

People have always been terrible, and doing terrible things to everyone to stop a handful of people from maybe doing other terrible things is counterproductive and hypocritical.
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Its all ways the do gooders that claim human rights - wait till it happens to one of their siblings etc and see if there is a change of heart.

I see this argument a lot, and it's nonsense.

I've been a victim, and I've been close to victims. This has done nothing to diminish my idealism or make me side with those who claim they can protect me, because even if they could, the price would still be to high. If anything, it's reinforced my views. I have endured, I will endure, and I neither need, nor want, to subcontract my safety to Big Brother at the price of my, or anyone else's, freedom.

No one can protect you as well as you, and you can do it yourself with far fewer downsides, if left to your own devices.
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