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reliability? superior build quality? heh

erm...the xbox was the one with the red ring of death buddy
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Please tell me you can't be that naive- how can you know what they will and won't be doing...

Simply put because if there was 1 case of that happening it would end ms.
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Simply put because if there was 1 case of that happening it would end ms.

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Another thing to consider is that PS4 isn't really that much cheaper than the Xbox One as the PS Eye is not included which requires another $59 dollars. To me, $459.99 vs $499.99 really doesn't make the difference and what it comes down to is exclusives and ecosystem. I'm a PS4 fan but I don't think anyone can deny that Xbox Live is a much better service than Playstation Plus. With everyone having the new Kinnect, it also raises the experience that everyone, including the developers, is going to expect from the system. To me, its well worth that $40 dollar difference, especially when the hardware is essentially the same, down to the CPU, RAM and storage.

Yeah it isnt that much cheaper, just 100 bucks. Yeah the Eye doesnt come in the package...but then again it isnt necessary unlike Kinect with XBONE. Hardware is essentially the same except the PS4 has better gpu and DDR5 compared to DDR3.

That 100 bucks is a pretty big deal to most consumers out there. Why spend 500 when I can spend 400 and be ready to play right out of the box. No online fee, no stupid accessories to hook up. It might seem very miniscule to you, but it's a pretty decent advantage they have right now.
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Another thing to consider is that PS4 isn't really that much cheaper than the Xbox One as the PS Eye is not included which requires another $59 dollars. To me, $459.99 vs $499.99 really doesn't make the difference and what it comes down to is exclusives and ecosystem. I'm a PS4 fan but I don't think anyone can deny that Xbox Live is a much better service than Playstation Plus. With everyone having the new Kinnect, it also raises the experience that everyone, including the developers, is going to expect from the system. To me, its well worth that $40 dollar difference, especially when the hardware is essentially the same, down to the CPU, RAM and storage.

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As for the other issues?

Always On/Connected: Seriously who on OCN really cares about the fact that their console is always connected to the internet? I really don't get it. For the 99% who have internet at least once every 24 hours, it's a good way to keep stuff updated and preloaded without having to wait.

Kinect Spying: You could make the same argument about the PS Eye. Highly unlikely, to the point its not an issue.

Used Games: Yes, that's possibility the only real argument users should moan about when it comes to the PS4 or Xbox. HOWEVER, we STILL have no clarification as to how it works. They just said publishers will decide how to implement it. Meaning, when EA charges you an extra fee to play used games, hate EA more than Microsoft. I bet you we will have some games that can't be replayed and some games that can.

Exclusives: At E3, the Xbox exclusives and titles seemed more impressive. There wasn't anything that I HAD, save for Killzone to have on the PS4 side while Xbox had Forza, Halo, and Titanfall to name a few. Historically, Sony has more exclusives but their launch lineup Xbox looks like they'll have more.


Now with all those good points going for the Xbox, I do have a huge issue with Microsoft and the direction they're taking the box. Sony clearly learned its mistake with the PS3 and whether or not they're implementing the changes correctly, at least it is apparent that they're more connected to the players than the Microsoft Executives. Sony is telling us more of what we want to hear while MS seems to going on a tangent and telling us what we should want. Their whole handling the previous press conference and this E3 has been a train wreck. What could have been solved with a straight up 10 min down to earth chat about the benefits of always on, always connected, and how used games will work, they completely left it untouched. Bad Microsoft. They really ruined their E3 presentation because they just ignored the Elephant in the room.

IMO, that is the only reason why I'm hesitant in picking up a Xbox. Their direction as a company has me worried.

it refuses to work with out the kinect.

always on, it's principle of it. plus i keep all my other computers with steam in offline mode. also my internet goes down quiet a bit at night for maintenance.

you didn't address how slow the xbone is with only 8gb of DDR3 rm for the GPU AND CPU versus the 8gb of GDDDR5 in the ps4. it may the same APU but, the perofmance coudlnt' be mroe different.

also the PlayStation network that cost money doesn't show ads and lets try/have free games.

on play station netflix is free and doesn't cost EXTRA
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Simply put because if there was 1 case of that happening it would end ms.
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Gotta say, I've not owned or even considered owning a console in the last 4-6 year. But the PS4 has me watching closely. A few new titles are looking really promising and worth while. I hate the Xbones always online/24 hour certification. So that's clearly out of the picture for me. Plus, why would I not want backwards compatibility? If I got one, I may want to buy some used copies of old PS3 titles and with Xbone that's not possible/super restrictive.
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Yeah it isnt that much cheaper, just 100 bucks. Yeah the Eye doesnt come in the package...but then again it isnt necessary unlike Kinect with XBONE. Hardware is essentially the same except the PS4 has better gpu and DDR5 compared to DDR3.

That 100 bucks is a pretty big deal to most consumers out there. Why spend 500 when I can spend 400 and be ready to play right out of the box. No online fee, no stupid accessories to hook up. It might seem very miniscule to you, but it's a pretty decent advantage they have right now.

Sorry to bust your bubble
But you have to pay to play online on the PS4.
Sony realized that to keep a ever expanding online system you gonna need more $$ to do so.

Same price as live, but you can normally find live for like 40 bucks online.
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Sony just ***pwned MS in the face and it feels good, man thumb.gif
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PS4 has this. With PS3 coming late and being expensive Xbox 360 took the lead but now that will not be the case.
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