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I seriously doubt the name Killzone is a turn off for parents. Yeah if their child is maybe 10 year old lol. PS4 tanking, yeah thats pretty laughable. One thing Sony has always had is its exclusives, Killzone being one of the best, then you have God of War, Uncharted and a couple others. Not too mention, Sony is way more involved with indie developers than microsoft. So there are going to be much more indie games on the PS4 which are going to appeal to alot of gamers. But hey to each his own, you think its gonna tank a lot think its going to thrive. Only time will tell.

With all the crazy violence that the flipping media has decided to put on the center stage in US the name Killzone will be a very big deal. There will even be a hell of a lot of 17 year olds that will not be playing the game (with their parents' permission or money at least) just because of the name. The age 10 to 16 demographic probably makes or breaks a console's sales. Parents see nothing wrong with the name HALO...they probably think of angels when they see the name. Killzone? ummm...not much left to imagination there.

inde games don't appeal to a very large majority of gamers...not on consoles anyway and if the games are selling 100,000 copies at $20 a pop how much in royalties is Sony pulling from that?

If they don't get a completely kick butt line of games out of the gate they are going to fall behind. Perhaps considering that "tanking" is too extreme, but what I mean is that even though it is probably the better console the Xbox One is going to pull ahead....and probably just because of Halo.
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Install base moves games. The PS4 is cheaper, it's going to have a larger install base out of the gate, I guarantee this, therefore, developers are going to bring their games to it. More people = more money.

Plus all the controversy surrounding the Xbox One has had a negative impact on it's core demographic. Having people hate your product before the first one even goes on sale is bad for business.
 
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Sorry to bust your bubble
But you have to pay to play online on the PS4.
Sony realized that to keep a ever expanding online system you gonna need more $$ to do so.

Same price as live, but you can normally find live for like 40 bucks online.

I've had PLUS for over a year now, nothing new. I didnt know they were requiring, but still nothing new to those who have been using PLUS. Its a great program, it doesnt just provide the ability to play online. It still provides the same free downloads and content it has been on the ps3. Which is alot more compared to what XBOX LIVE offers.
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I've had PLUS for over a year now, nothing new. I didnt know they were requiring, but still nothing new to those who have been using PLUS. Its a great program, it doesnt just provide the ability to play online. It still provides the same free downloads and content it has been on the ps3. Which is alot more compared to what XBOX LIVE offers.

Live added free games as well, with that it is a lot like psn +. Two free games but dedicated servers is added into the mix
PSN doesn't have dedicated servers
XBL also gives you access to a lot of media content among other things (like Superior Cloud Support).

Considering your paying the same for live (yet you can get live for $10-20 cheaper online as well) and your getting more for your money, it is a pretty decent deal for MS.


PSN will surely be perfectly fine, but I wouldn't expect that XBL experience.
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Live added free games as well, on with that it is a lot like psn. Two free games and dedicated servers
PSN doesn't have dedicated servers
XBL also gives you access to a lot of media content among other things (like Superior Cloud Support).

Considering your paying the same for live (yet you can get live for $10-20 cheaper online as well) and your getting more for your money, it is a pretty decent deal for MS.


PSN will surely be perfectly fine, but I wouldn't expect that XBL experience.

I believed someone mentioned only until Xboned comes out, then the deal is over.
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Playstation 4 will be region free.

 

Yet another reason to buy a PS4 over Xbox One.

 

Microsoft are really stuck in the trenches with their heads down and their pants around their ankles. biggrin.gif

 

Come on Microsoft, time to give a little. If you don't you're going to fail hard.


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Live added free games as well, with that it is a lot like psn +. Two free games but dedicated servers is added into the mix
PSN doesn't have dedicated servers
XBL also gives you access to a lot of media content among other things (like Superior Cloud Support).

xbox live doesn't have dedicated servers for what matters: games
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I believed someone mentioned only until Xboned comes out, then the deal is over.

If you watched it He said though not till. So almost seemed like One users would get that as well, but 360 users first.
Though even if it is only for a short time, still a decent deal.
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xbox live doesn't have dedicated servers for what matters: games

360 games won't

Xbox One games will
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reliability? superior build quality? heh

PS3 wants to have a talk with you, xD
   
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So to sum up this entire thread: OCN has always as a majority preferred the PS3 over the Xbox 360 and surprise, surprise that is happening again with this generation.

I am going with the XBONE for my next console for a few reasons: The always online or 24 hour check sounds amazing to me. I hate nothing more than to come home after a long day at work ready to blow stuff up and be surprised by a huge update to a game that I have to wait to download. I more than support always being connected.

The integration with Kinect and the voice commands and all of that really intrigues me. All of their demos so far show it operates almost pretty perfect and seamlessly.

Not having to change inputs for cable is another huge bonus to me as well; a controller is way harder for me to lose compared to a remote but even if your controller is across the room you change the channel with your voice.

Xbox Live in my opinion is much more streamlined and reliable and fits my taste much better than Sony's offering. I have never paid more than $35 for a year of Xbox Live Gold so I don't see that changing now.

The extra $100 on the price tag doesn't bother me because obviously it's for the Kinect and the functionality you gain from that pays for itself in convenience.

While I have read all of the rumors and blah blah about the used games on the XBONE, I like to refer to this idea that Microsoft could be withholding for the time being whenever everyone is just too angry to see straight anymore: http://www.dailygame.net/features/microsofts-xbox-one-used-game-policy-makes-sense-and-could-win-the-console-war --a cheaper MSRP would make up for that $100 in no time, not to mention the exclusives at E3 looked much more promising than that of Sony's. Even then, there are still select retailers to get used games through so I think eventually this will work itself out and it will be a non-issue.

The hardware is better in the PS4, but how much will we actually see it? They both run DX11 so I don't see developers being able to do anything extreme in terms of a little extra horsepower under the hood. It comes down to both companies displayed some great visuals at E3 and I don't predict that being a make or break type of issue at the time of purchase.

As far as Kinect spying on you, I think there is going to be something you can opt into during setup for that. If you opt in, they will randomly snap a picture or use audio or something to personalize your experience and if you opt out then nothing becomes of it. If you opt out and they still spy then you are going to be a rich person by the end of it anyway.

I don't see Microsoft as an evil entity like most of you do and would rather give my money to an American based company for what translates to a more streamlined experience to the end user. Most of you seem to forget there are still things we don't know about both consoles so until it gets closer to launch and the secrets are revealed, maybe some of you should learn how to bite your tongue...
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