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Cinebench is the most Intel Optimized benchmark you can find. Very unreliable for cross platform benching. There was a problem with older versions having code intentionally added by intel (or at least paid for by intel) that handicapped AMD CPUs... and current versions over-report the effectiveness of hyperthreading monstrously, with hyperthread enabled cpus scoring far better then any end user would see in a real life application (in super ideal real world applications, the very best you'll ever see from hyperthreading is aproximately a 30% improvement in multithreaded tasks, cinebench grants far more then a 30% boost for hyperthreading)

Cinebench uses the rendering engine found in cinema 4D. And Cinema 4D is very much a real life application.

The boost added by HT in cinebench also is not far over 30%. It's actually around 27%.

Cinebench places the 8350 just below the 3770K and well above the 3570K. Are you going to tell me that is not representative of real world multithreaded performance? The only problem with Cine and AMD CPUs at this point in time is the lack of proper NUMA support that will hamper 4p performance on G34 boards.
 
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Cinebench is compiled with Intel C Compiler (with cripple AMD function from their compiler).
people that have programmed before might understand what that means.

not as worthless as other benchmarks that use 8087 (x87) instructions.
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the final nail in the intel coffin
looking forward to 4 more years of am3+
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the final nail in the intel coffin
looking forward to 4 more years of am3+

LOL, i love AMD but i wouldnt go that far...
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Cinebench is compiled with Intel C Compiler (with cripple AMD function from their compiler).
people that have programmed before might understand what that means.

not as worthless as other benchmarks that use 8087 (x87) instructions.

the compiler does not guarantee all available optimizations for AMD CPUs. However the more important points here are that it's an extremely widely used compiler. It absolutely has to be taken into account when testing for real world performance.

And as for using other compilers here's what anand says about cine and the compiler used:
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The ICC 11.0 compiler was the fastest compiler of its time for SSE/FP intensive software, even for the Opterons (up to 24% faster than the competing compilers)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5058/amds-opteron-interlagos-6200/10

So it was the best option for both parties. Should they have used a slower option just so we could forget that FTC mandated notice in the intel C compiler notes?

In the end it's all about real world performance right? Why should we exclude real world applications from testing on the basis of being fair when reality itself isn't fair? That's doing a disservice to the consumer looking to get an idea on the general performance of a product.
 
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post #166 of 270
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Cinebench is the most Intel Optimized benchmark you can find. Very unreliable for cross platform benching. There was a problem with older versions having code intentionally added by intel (or at least paid for by intel) that handicapped AMD CPUs... and current versions over-report the effectiveness of hyperthreading monstrously, with hyperthread enabled cpus scoring far better then any end user would see in a real life application (in super ideal real world applications, the very best you'll ever see from hyperthreading is aproximately a 30% improvement in multithreaded tasks, cinebench grants far more then a 30% boost for hyperthreading)

Cinebench gives about a 20% boost for HyperThreading, and it is a real-world application (Maxon C4D). Though I agree it is heavily optimized for Intel.
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So do we know what their referring to with the 5ghz? Is that on all 8 cores? 2 cores?

it goes like this on current FX-8xxx

step 0 - 8 cores stock clock - A voltage
step one - 8 cores higher clock - B voltage
step two - 4 cores highest clock - B voltage

B>A
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It's over 9000!!!
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The new CPUs, the FX-9000 series are not intended for trade

This article says that they will be only available for the oem market
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