Originally Posted by Diablosbud
I pay for my own internet, I also paid for the hardware I'm viewing it on. I don't understand why I'm paying them for online usage. Consoles host online multiplayer on the internet connections of the players (hence migrating host messages when people drop connection). Data for multiplayer could simply be stored locally on the hard-disk. So what is it exactly I'm paying Sony or Microsoft for? Am I paying to view their advertisements on the dashboard? Am I paying for the privilege to use my own internet, my own hardware, and my own hosting/the hosting of other customers? Everything should be funded by the console purchase, so where is this money going? Is it pure profit?
Most Exclusives (talking like, 99% here) use dedicated servers. Using Call of Duty to judge the PSN is pretty pathetic (or any multiplat for that matter). Also, they just quickly ran over the Gaikai announcement but I also think PSN+ mandatory for multiplayer is also to help pay for bandwidth cost for that too (just my own assumption). Besides that, who actually bought a Playstation for it's online capabilities? Everyone knew that the 360 had better social features, and was amazing for playing with friends. Ps3 exclusives are all relatively singleplayer games, which is most likely what I, myself, will be getting a Ps4 for. Not paying for PSN+ isn't going to interrupt my singleplayer experience, nor gimp any hardware (which is why your car analogy is bogus).
Originally Posted by paulerxx
You get more free goodies with XBL, not only talking about games but a whole lot of other features the PS4 and PSN probably won't have for awhile. I can't confirm this though, just going by PSN vs XBL currently.
Besides crossgame chat (which was confirmed for PS4) what else does XBL have that PSN doesn't? I haven't touched my Ps3 in a while, but last time I used it that was practically the only reason to get XBL over PSN.
Originally Posted by obsidian86
better car analagy
you wanna drive around your neighborhood and a moderate distance you can do it all you want or if you want
to got further and using freeways you just to pay a small toll and be on your way
Slightly better, but still not entirely accurate. See, you are paying to play with other people, not to use other features. Probably the closest analogy you can get to is, you can drive on private roads all day for free, but to drive on public roads with other people you need to pay. Or the slightly less accurate but still kind of makes sense, you can drive alone all you want, but if you want friends in the car with you, you have to pay. But still, a car analogy isn't always the best idea to explain something, specifically something like this that is easy enough to understand on it's own that it doesn't need an analogy to explain it.Edited by thatleftnut - 6/11/13 at 3:09pm