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yeah i mean playstation plus is pretty sweet, no ads.

and if you just want to play single player games and surf the internet, netflix etc you don't have to buy anything
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Well I would expect that "1000$ PC" performance to be exactly as much ahead of console in 10 years as it is today. Ofc it will be horribly outdated and cant push 8K virtual reality headsets at max settings in 10 years, but it can play roughly the same visual quality still in 10 years as these consoles I would expect, assuming it has today a card with at the very least 2 GB of vRAM, preferable 3 or 4. You could, probably, still run BF3 also with a decent enough PC from the era when consoles launched at the same resolution and settings. That is 1280x720, low or no AA, DX 9c, low reso textures, and so on and forth.

Consoles will be optimized ofc, but optimization is not some kind of black magic doubling the performance out of the blue.

Now with new consoles the GDDR5 in PS4 might ofc mean that PC will hit the vRAM wall with smaller vRAM GFX cards and PC's dont handle that well, causes massive hit in frame rates. But most games probably wont use more than 3 or max 4 GB of that RAM pool for GFX considering these consoles seem to be intended to play at 1080p. At 4K resolutions that scenario would be higher probability to you hit the vRAM wall with less than 3 GB of vRAM, but consoles do not have enough processing power to really push that reso with very high grade textures and stuff. Although I would expect at least some games running at 4K @ 30 Hz on comsoles and still looking pretty decent.
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well for me, its been confirmed your current PS Plus subscription will carry over and still have an effect on your PS3, Vita and PS4 titles, so that's a win. plus my local game store EB Games is doing a 50% bonus trade credit value towards a pre-order of the PS4.

I have more than 20 games just lying around, so im heading down to EB Games tomorrow smile.gif the PS4 retails for $549 here in Australia, but I can't see a reason why not to get one.
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Well, I guess it isn't as bad as Xbox Live... I mean, it's cheaper and from what i've heard is better...

Plus, the actual console itself is $399... $100 cheaper than Xbone, that $100 can go towards 2 years sub.

Bleh, i'll just stick to my PC anyway....... thumb.gif
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However, I must add that the statement posted few posts back how the operators of "free to play" games are free to decide if they put these under PSN+ or not is interesting. That sort of implies, that some online gaming might be possible without having the PSN+ account. Wonder tho what are the implications on the developer, will it cost him so much that it makes no sense to go at it outside PSN+ or will it just mean, for example, that Sony collects, lets say, 5% higher tithes on all the microtransactions?
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Lets me honest PSN services isnt that good, So if paying for it improves the services then ok.
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