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This just means that Xbox Live will slowly add features to match the PS Plus offerings. Just look what they are doing with Fable 3 and Halo 3 next month, giving them out for free.

Xbox gets all the hate while Sony is spared. I love how on the Xbox thread, some many people were like "Xbox Live Isn't free this round? Not getting my money" however, "PS4 charging for multi? Sounds reasonable!" Xbox lead the way with pay to play multi, and Sony lead the way with giving you free older games most people wouldn't pay for anyway in a subscription model. Now both will have similar setups. Realistically, when two companies go head to head, its only a matter of time before their offerings match up with one another, neither side will have exclusive setups for long. Just look at motion controls. It all balances out in time.

Also, Xbox one IS $100 more, but you get motion controls right out of the box, a while i hate as much as a lot of you do, its a lot easier for companies to innovate on function when it comes standard with all consoles, just look at how revolutionary the original Xbox hard drive was. Memory cards sucked building in the memory card made things much more streamlined.
Edited by droses1 - 6/11/13 at 8:59am
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If you people complain about $5.00 a month for a ton of games and perks, you people need a new hobby/job.
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It's not that bad. PS+ is actually great value and pays for itself.
Exactly this.
The free games alone are worth more than the price of your subscription.

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Like I care for paying 5 bucks a month to have a decent online anyway...
   
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I have PS+ right now, but its still kind of disappointing that PSN isn't free anymore headscratch.gif
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Any idea if PS3 will play online with PS4???
     
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Complain all you like, the pros of the PS4 outweight the cons.

Really there's only two reasons to even consider a Xbox One over a PS4. Exclusives and control pad preference. Everything else the PS4 has in the bag at this point.

Yes but aren't those two reasons the determining factor for going one way or another? Everything else is a wash, or pretty close to it. You've got to pick the console to play the games you want to play and play in a comfortable manner, the better controller. Personally, even though I hate what Microsoft has done, I'm leaning towards the box purely because there's more exclusives on it that I want. Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid and Killzone were a couple of the reasons why I bought a PS3 at launch. Two of the three have gone multiplatform. Halo and Destiny is and looks more fun that Killzone. Forza and Titanfall pretty much clenches the deal for me. Even though I'll pick up both systems before the end of 2014, I'll probably jump for the Xbox One first as it has more exclusives I want to play in the foreseeable future.
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Deal breaker for me. I was planning on getting PS4 day one too, but PC will have to do now. PS+ is only an epic deal if you plan on using its extra features or want those "free" games. The only thing I want is to play online, not the other garbage. So, it's really just a waste of $5 per month to me.

This reminds me of Verizon trying to get me to "upgrade" to their 2GB shared data plan that would cost me $20 more per month when I already had 2GB data. They said it's a great deal, and it would have been if I needed the extra mins/text, but I don't even use up my limited mins/text, so unlimited mins/text does nothing for me except make me pay more per month.
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For those with panties twisted in a bunch why not play those games (for console exclusive... tough luck) on PC where it is still FREE to play online, at the cost of paying double if not triple the consoles price to maximize your experience. tongue.gifthumb.gif

I can't believe there are console fanboys on OCN who thinks that you need $1500 for a gaming pc rolleyes.gif I thought the PC Master Race rules these servers.
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Also, Xbox one IS $100 more, but you get motion controls right out of the box, a while i hate as much as a lot of you do, its a lot easier for companies to innovate on function when it comes standard with all consoles, just look at how revolutionary the original Xbox hard drive was. Memory cards sucked building in the memory card made things much more streamlined.

lol you make it sound like Microsoft invented the hard disk drive. We have those since the '60s rolleyes.gif it's just that consoles are way too behind in everything.
Edited by james8 - 6/11/13 at 9:07am
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